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post #11 of 60
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
4850 is stronger than a 250. 4870 is stronger than a 260.

The 275 is stronger than a 4870, yes. The 4870 is as far as I know, right in the middle.

It's a solid card. If you get one that overclocks like a beast, you could get stock 285 performance from it (4890).



Drivers are just fine. Personally, I'll always do a fresh format when switching between AMD and Nvidia now. It leaves those pesky driver issues out of the way.
hmm ok i understand now i always thought the 260 was almost the same ahaha.

okay good, and i have to do a clean format anyway last pc when it died corrupted windows.
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i would personally pick the GTX 260 192 core simply because it has better drivers(less bugs especially for old games), Physx for older or newer games, advance individual tweaks(AA, AF, Texture Filtering Quality, Triple-Buffering, etc...) for each games on nvidia control panel that you can apply to make old games that doesn't have those options to look miles better



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post #13 of 60
The HD4870 1GB is the better card. When it was released, the GTX 260 with 192 cores couldn't compete I think with the 512 MB version of the HD4870, that is why they later released the GTX 260 Core 216, which wasn't that much better and didn't change the overall conclusions. Besides, the 1 GB version was faster than the 512 MB, and it even matched or outperformed the GTX280 in some games.

The HD4890 is more or less comparable to a GTX280 (the GTX285 is a little faster).
 
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post #15 of 60
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i would personally pick the GTX 260 192 core simply because it has better drivers(less bugs especially for old games), Physx for older or newer games, advance individual tweaks(AA, AF, Texture Filtering Quality, Triple-Buffering, etc...) for each games on nvidia control panel that you can apply to make old games that doesn't have those options to look miles better



performance wise, they are neck to neck














no offense but last nvidia card i had (8800GT) drivers were a joke and all the problems with them i heard about 3 months ago, until i see proof nobody can convince me nvidia has better drivers. also PhysX is not something i care about or even need lol.
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The 4850 is closer to a 260, a 4870 is much more powerful especially with 1gig of ddr5 ram.
No, that is incorrect. The HD4850 is comparable to a 9800GTX, slightly faster in some games. That is why Nvidia released the 9800GTX+ to stay competitive.
 
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No, that is incorrect. The HD4850 is comparable to a 9800GTX, slightly faster in some games. That is why Nvidia released the 9800GTX+ to stay competitive.
Sigh....

8800GTS 512, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, and GTS250 are all identical other than SOME had a die shrink to 55nm. I've seen 9800GTX+'s and GTS250's still on 65nm. Its a DIRECT rebrand.

So he was correct. The 8800GTS 512, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, and GTS250 are all the same card, so the 4850 is better than all of the above cards.
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post #18 of 60
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Sigh....

8800GTS 512, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, and GTS250 are all identical other than SOME had a die shrink to 55nm. I've seen 9800GTX+'s and GTS250's still on 65nm. Its a DIRECT rebrand.

So he was correct. The 8800GTS 512, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, and GTS250 are all the same card, so the 4850 is better than all of the above cards.
^^
this i had a 9800GTX+ before and it was 65nm and my neighbor has a 9800GTX and its also 65nm

heck i even flashed my 9800GTX+ into a GTS 250 and worked perfectly
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Sigh....

8800GTS 512, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, and GTS250 are all identical other than SOME had a die shrink to 55nm. I've seen 9800GTX+'s and GTS250's still on 65nm. Its a DIRECT rebrand.

So he was correct. The 8800GTS 512, 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, and GTS250 are all the same card, so the 4850 is better than all of the above cards.

Did you read the same as I ?

Am I arguing in my post about that list of cards that differ in manufacturing process and clockspeed ?

I'm only saying the HD4850 is not closer to a GTX260, it is closer to a 9800GTX, which is the card that was on sale when the HD4850 was released. The GTS250 came later and neither that or the other models have anything to do with what I was saying.


Edit: Anandtech Radeon HD4850 and HD4870 review

HD4850 performance in 7 games tested:


HD4850 behind 9800GTX: 1

HD4850 tied with 9800GTX: 1

HD4850 between 9800GTX and 9800GTX+ : 2

HD4850 faster than 9800GTX+, but still closer to it than to the GTX260: 1



HD4850 halfway between 9800GTX+ and GTX260, slightly closer to the GTX260: 1

HD4850 behind the GTX280; HD4870 just behind 9800 GX2 (9800GTX+ ties with the GTX260 at this time): 1
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no offense but last nvidia card i had (8800GT) drivers were a joke and all the problems with them i heard about 3 months ago, until i see proof nobody can convince me nvidia has better drivers. also PhysX is not something i care about or even need lol.
i own an HD 4850 and HD 4870 x2 and the drivers especially for the X2 is garbage

for instance in GTA4, you have massive Z-Fighting
in fact its a well known issue and have a thread on AMD forums ages ago, but amd programmers are too lazy to fix the issue
http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...ar&#lastunread

http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...hreadid=109185


also on my 4870 x2, if crossfire is enabled you got a screen corruption due to poor drivers.


also in amd drivers, you don't have the ability to apply individual tweaks on driver for each games, all you have is a universal settings that apply to all your applications
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