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post #21 of 60
iirc from the first build i was planning (never went through though) the 4870 was the card to get and the 260 core216 was below it performance wise so i would say 4870
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Originally Posted by raclimja View Post
i own an HD 4850 and HD 4870 x2 and the drivers especially for the X2 is garbage

for instance in GTA4, you have massive Z-Fighting
in fact its a well known issue and have a thread on AMD forums ages ago, but amd programmers are too lazy to fix the issue
http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...ar&#lastunread

http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...hreadid=109185


also on my 4870 x2, if crossfire is enabled you got a screen corruption due to poor drivers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v4FHnH6iKg


also in amd drivers, you don't have the ability to apply individual tweaks on driver for each games, all you have is a universal settings that apply to all your applications

From what I read from that time the 4850x2 had terrible drivers at the time of release, the 4870x2 better drivers, but anyway, this is not at question here, he is asking for a single card.

Crossfire and SLI configurations are always secondary choices in my book exactly because of what you say.
 
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Originally Posted by raclimja View Post
i own an HD 4850 and HD 4870 x2 and the drivers especially for the X2 is garbage

for instance in GTA4, you have massive Z-Fighting
in fact its a well known issue and have a thread on AMD forums ages ago, but amd programmers are too lazy to fix the issue
http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...ar&#lastunread

http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...hreadid=109185


also on my 4870 x2, if crossfire is enabled you got a screen corruption due to poor drivers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v4FHnH6iKg


also in amd drivers, you don't have the ability to apply individual tweaks on driver for each games, all you have is a universal settings that apply to all your applications
Z-Fighting is caused from lousy drivers? i thought it was a bug in the game
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Z-Fighting is caused from lousy drivers? i thought it was a bug in the game
Nvidia card do not suffer on Z-fighting

in fact after i change my card to GTX 465, 99% of my problems due to bad drivers are now gone

i could also apply advance tweaks on the driver for individual games
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Originally Posted by raclimja View Post
Nvidia card do not suffer on Z-fighting

in fact after i change my card to GTX 465, 99% of my problems due to bad drivers are now gone

i could also apply advance tweaks on the driver for individual games
You also went from dual GPU to single GPU.

The issue was a crossfire issue. SLI has its share of issues, same as Crossfire.

I never ONCE had a problem with my 4850 or 4890 with drivers. Swapped to a GTX470 and I started having driver issues (some games would randomly crash, and I had lower than expected performance), till they came out with 266.58's.
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post #26 of 60
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From what I read from that time the 4850x2 had terrible drivers at the time of release, the 4870x2 better drivers, but anyway, this is not at question here, he is asking for a single card.

Crossfire and SLI configurations are always secondary choices in my book exactly because of what you say.

the best drivers for HD 4000 series is either 10.4 or 10.5 with hotfix

anything newer than that will either reduce the performance(it would increase your max fps but at the cost of worse min and avg FPS) and it is very evident on my HD 4850 and 4870 x2 on games such as crysis, gta, dirt 2 & 3, Grid etc...

also amd have a habit of fixing an issue on the next release and breaking it again on the next release
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Originally Posted by raclimja View Post
Nvidia card do not suffer on Z-fighting

in fact after i change my card to GTX 465, 99% of my problems due to bad drivers are now gone

i could also apply advance tweaks on the driver for individual games
well... my 8800 had problems non stop and it was caused by drivers because as soon as i went to 266.58 problems went away. reason why i say this is because i dont want to put up with crap drivers
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I have a 4870 512 gig. Gigabyte.

In windows XP i found out that ever since driver 11.2/11.5 it does not like it when you flash the bios so that the clock is 800 mhz. This happened in Windows XP.

Catalyst Control Center does not like it when you ramp up the clock beyond the maximum clock ati overdrive of 790 mhz. It caused reboots on start-up.

I returned the bios to 750 mhz the default and everything has been good since.

In windows 7 it didnt seem to care if i had the bios modded to 800 mhz core.

So if you have ditched XP like most people you probably wont notice.

Also the 4870 is a Heat HUGE heat source. I have modded the fan using the bios but its noisey now However it only hits 60 degrees.. when you tweak the fan settings.

These are the only games i run that you have with my 4870 512:
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source games
bioshock
far cry 2

FarCry 2 is definately pushing it for my video card. I think if i lower AA it would run okay... or if i had the 1 gig version it would be nicer.
post #29 of 60
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You also went from dual GPU to single GPU.

The issue was a crossfire issue. SLI has its share of issues, same as Crossfire

i sold my HD 4870 x2 a while ago and used my HD 4850 for a few days waiting for my PNY GTX 465 to arrive on the mail so i have tested amd driver on both single and multi gpu configuration
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I have a 4870 512 gig. Gigabyte.

In windows XP i found out that ever since driver 11.2/11.5 it does not like it when you flash the bios so that the clock is 800 mhz. This happened in Windows XP.

Catalyst Control Center does not like it when you ramp up the clock beyond the maximum clock ati overdrive of 790 mhz. It caused reboots on start-up.

I returned the bios to 750 mhz the default and everything has been good since.

In windows 7 it didnt seem to care if i had the bios modded to 800 mhz core.

So if you have ditched XP like most people you probably wont notice.

Also the 4870 is a Heat HUGE heat source. I have modded the fan using the bios but its noisey now However it only hits 60 degrees.. when you tweak the fan settings.

These are the only games i run that you have with my 4870 512:
.
source games
bioshock
far cry 2

FarCry 2 is definately pushing it for my video card. I think if i lower AA it would run okay... or if i had the 1 gig version it would be nicer.
well i will be running windows 7 so xp not an issue
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