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If Samsung can have its claim to Apple not being properly licensed to 3g refused as a reason to stop the device being sold because it's a industry standard protocol now, Apple should have be refused their suits because rectangle is an industry standard shape. doh.gif
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post #12 of 59
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No, it's because frivolous lawsuits and patent trolling is inconvenient and annoying to us.
Considering that multiple judges have ruled in favor of Apple I wouldn't call them frivolous.
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When all is said and done, it's the lawyers that win.
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This whole ordeal is absolutely absurd.
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No, it's because frivolous lawsuits and patent trolling is inconvenient and annoying to us.
It's not really patent trolling... technically.

The system allows for such abuse and strong-arm tactics, Apple being a huge company should take advantage of how the system works in their favor, just as every other company has for years.

It's exactly the same as other companies hiring lawyers to find loopholes in tax codes to avoid paying taxes or pay reduced taxes. If the system is open to abuse, companies will take advantage. Quite frankly, as they should.

Companies are not moral compasses, they're in it for the profit margins, it's how the game is played. Not that I agree with it at all, but I can see why Apple would be doing this.
    
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It's not really patent trolling... technically.

The system allows for such abuse and strong-arm tactics, Apple being a huge company should take advantage of how the system works in their favor, just as every other company has for years.

It's exactly the same as other companies hiring lawyers to find loopholes in tax codes to avoid paying taxes or pay reduced taxes. If the system is open to abuse, companies will take advantage. Quite frankly, as they should.

Companies are not moral compasses, they're in it for the profit margins, it's how the game is played. Not that I agree with it at all, but I can see why Apple would be doing this.
The problem isn't in morality, it's in ethics. A large company that can only stay successful with competition, yet sues all of their competition to try to get ahead, will fail. Unethical business practices (to this extent, as most business is done somewhat unethically) typically end up with you filing for bankruptcy, not succeeding.

Ethics /= morality. I think I've explained this in a few Apple threads, nobody seems to understand though. I'd think there's at least a few business majors out there that would get that Apple, although a large company, is not necessarily a successful company because of how they got there.
Edited by refeek - 10/17/11 at 3:55am
post #17 of 59
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Originally Posted by Munkypoo7 View Post
It's not really patent trolling... technically.

The system allows for such abuse and strong-arm tactics, Apple being a huge company should take advantage of how the system works in their favor, just as every other company has for years.

It's exactly the same as other companies hiring lawyers to find loopholes in tax codes to avoid paying taxes or pay reduced taxes. If the system is open to abuse, companies will take advantage. Quite frankly, as they should.
Why on earth do you think they should do these things? Isn't finding loopholes to use the legal system and laws in ways they were not intended precisely what responsible people and corporations should not be doing?
post #18 of 59
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Originally Posted by jdwilson View Post
Considering that multiple judges have ruled in favor of Apple I wouldn't call them frivolous.
This is true, lawsuits that you win or have a good chance of winning are, by definition, not frivolous.

Anyone who says something like that can be clearly identified as uninformed at best or suffering from http://www.gamepro.com/article/featu...-of-fanboyism/

Likewise, Apple spend years and over 3B USD, on the development of the iPhone, so thats not by any common definition a "patent troll".
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So I assume you guys support the theft of intellectual design? because reading about Apple's legitimate lawsuits is inconvenient and annoying to you?
Tablets of 2011
Galaxy tab:

IPad:
Toshiba Thrive:


Tablet before Ipad:


so if Apple was in some magical way not the first how can they patent all these things and sue others for it.
Radical Patents by apple (I can name off my head):
Patents on rectangular tablets
Circular buttons on MP3 players and tablets
White MP3 players
A Circular control pad on an MP3 player.
LED fans and illuminated cases
Touchscreen phones
rectangular phones
anything starting with an "i"
Anything with remotely similar looking UI to Macs

And many more that i would have to look up. They were given over 500 patents in 2010 alone. Does this not seem a little strange to you or anyone else?
post #20 of 59
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Originally Posted by kikkO View Post
Of all companies Apple could target they target Samsung's design. Guess people lack the basic function of asking why. Any argument for Apple on a PC biased forum is futile I guess.




You can read the title, very impressive.

There's a link at the bottom of the quote, it's called "Source" and normally people read it before commenting, if you're having difficulty reading you can find someone to read it to you. Since you're obviously having difficulty I've quoted for your convenience.
I think you missed my point, when ive stopped laughing and my face doesnt hurt anymore, i'll try to explain....no promises that will be anytime soon though
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