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After three plus days of soul searching and researching new cases, I have finally decided that a Caselab M8/M10 is the right case for me. (I was originally going for a Corsair 800D and then a Mountain Mods Pinnacle 24, but I found faults with both of those cases that I could just not overcome.)

Anyway, I like the size of the M8/M10 cases and will be ordering one soon. My plan is to put two XSPC RX360 rads in the top and have them pull air through the top of the case and rad into the case itself. I understand I might need to get one of the extended tops for me to be able to do this, and perhaps to upgrade to a push/pull design later on.

My undecidedness between these two cases come strictly from the form factor of the MB tray. My current MB is fairly new and I will not be trading it out for some time. However, I know that the M10 case can fit slightly more types of MB than the M8. The M8 has everything that I need now, but what about in the future.

So my problem is whether it is worth it to go with the M10, just in case more MB manufacturers start making these larger MB more common. $20 is not that big of a deal, but I also loose some headroom above the MB in the M10 case as compared to the M8 case, so that is why I am torn. I figure this is the last case I will buy for at least a decade, so that is why I am having difficulty.

What is everyone's oppinion on this - go with the M10 or M8 . . .
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M8 > Radiator Clearance Above the MB Tray: 100mm
M10 > Radiator Clearance Above the MB Tray: 59mm

There is a big difference above the MB Tray as you can see. But with the 64mm extended top or even the 85mm extended top ...you can easily put the RX360's in the top of both cases ... and in push/pull
I would suggest: spend the $10 extra on the M10.

I'm using a M10 myself in combination with a pedestal. And I mounted 2 Black Ice SR-1's in the pedestal and another SR-1 on the PSU-side.

So you have lots of options to choose from
    
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I was once under the same dilemma, M10 or M8, I don't use a radiator above my motherboard as of date since I also purchased a pedestal.

I decided to go M10 as I might upgrade to a XL ATX board one day when Ivy Bridge comes out, M8 only supports up to EATX call it future proofing if you will...

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M8 > Radiator Clearance Above the MB Tray: 100mm
M10 > Radiator Clearance Above the MB Tray: 59mm

There is a big difference above the MB Tray as you can see. But with the 64mm extended top or even the 85mm extended top ...you can easily put the RX360's in the top of both cases ... and in push/pull
I would suggest: spend the $10 extra on the M10.

I'm using a M10 myself in combination with a pedestal. And I mounted 2 Black Ice SR-1's in the pedestal and another SR-1 on the PSU-side.

So you have lots of options to choose from
The extended top doesn't let you mount the rx360 with pull + rx360 in the top itself as the rx is too thick. If you want to do push pull you need to put the pull fans in the top, and then the rad and push go inside the case. If the clearance above the tray is 59mm on the M10 you won't have room for push (25mm probably) + rad (63mm) unless your motherboard has some extra clearance. Most likely therefore you will have to go with the M8 (100mm clearance) if you want to do push pull. Either that or get a slimmer rad or the T10 which is a little taller than the M10
     
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Until now, I haven't really been familiar with the XL-ATX motherboards. All of mine have been ATX or microATX. Decided to look at the prices of those extra large motherboards, and I just realized that if I can ever pay that much for a motherboard then I can afford to buy a new case!!!!!!! So, I guess the M8 will do for now.

I have two ideas, first is to hang my two RX360 rads under the nonextended M8 topin pull only configuration. This would have the rads mounted directly to the top and the fans mounted underneath pulling fresh air into the case. With 100mm of room, the 63mm rad and 25mm fan (88mm total) should fit nicely.

The second option is to put the two rads on the PSU side of the case - one on top and one on the bottom with the PSU in the middle. This could potentially keep hot air from the rads exiting out into the motherboard compartment. How is the air intake from the bottom of the case with only the rubber feet attached? I know it would be better with the wheels attached due to the increased clearance between the floor and the case.

So that is what I am considering now. . .
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This is the same dilemma I have been going through myself. I'm stuck between the M8 , T10.....or just saying screw it and going for the big ol' TH10! I want to put my rads on top as well.

Stren : I jumped in another build thread , where a guy was doing the overhead rads as well , and he has it set up with just a push from inside the case. Wouldn't you get slightly better cooling doing a push with shrouds on top of the case , and then a set off fans on the inside doing the pull? I see quite a few guys do it the way you mention , but i'm just curious as to why. I would think the rads would stay cooler with fresh air instead of the case ( heated air ) blowing over the rads?
    
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I wouldn't have thought that the clearance would be a problem with the rubber feet as long as you stop any dust collecting. Certainly for temps it would be better if you had one rad on either side rather than both on one side and none on the other. Bear in mind you still want airflow over the motherboard components and the air coming out of your rads won't be that hot. Even when I run 1200W through my 2 rx360's the air is warm but still not hot enough to cause a concern for the motherboard.

Hmm I thought you could mount fans on top of the case even with the non extended top, but it seems like I'm wrong on that?
     
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This is the same dilemma I have been going through myself. I'm stuck between the M8 , T10.....or just saying screw it and going for the big ol' TH10! I want to put my rads on top as well.

Stren : I jumped in another build thread , where a guy was doing the overhead rads as well , and he has it set up with just a push from inside the case. Wouldn't you get slightly better cooling doing a push with shrouds on top of the case , and then a set off fans on the inside doing the pull? I see quite a few guys do it the way you mention , but i'm just curious as to why. I would think the rads would stay cooler with fresh air instead of the case ( heated air ) blowing over the rads?
Haha this is how Jim gets us, he tempts us with the reasonable M8, and then before you know it we've ordered a TH10 + pedestal haha.

Yes cold air would be better, although it also depends on your fans, push is better at higher rpm's and pull is better at lower rpm's. Certainly the shroud would help too, but then the OP would need an extended top again.
     
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