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So... Is it?

Or is the sensor wonky?
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I would say to go for the G500. It costs a little bit more but has adjustable sensitivity and a bunch of other goodies not to mention its sensor is amazing ^_^
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I'm just asking about the G300 out of curiosity tongue.gif.
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I just got the G400, feels almost exactly like my old MX518, just seems a tad more responsive. The G300 has a 2500dpi sensor, so its right in between the MX518 and G400. It doesn't look very comfortable however. However, if you play a lot of MMOs or whatnot, those extra buttons will come handy. I guess give it a try, its like 30 bucks, but I would definitely recommend getting a G400 for only 6 or 7 dollars more.
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The sensor positioning is wonky, but otherwise it does not seem to have any acceleration built-in nor any jitter issues. This picture was taken at 500 DPI, 500Hz:

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Perfect control speed seems acceptable, though I haven't tested it extensively. The shape is weird though and will likely not be to the liking of most users. The lift-off distance is also mediocre, somewhere around 2mm.
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Originally Posted by answ3r;15343327 
I just got the G400, feels almost exactly like my old MX518, just seems a tad more responsive. The G300 has a 2500dpi sensor, so its right in between the MX518 and G400. It doesn't look very comfortable however. However, if you play a lot of MMOs or whatnot, those extra buttons will come handy. I guess give it a try, its like 30 bucks, but I would definitely recommend getting a G400 for only 6 or 7 dollars more.

Just don't use the software with the G400 or G300.
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Originally Posted by baws;15361228 
Just don't use the software with the G400 or G300.

There is new software available today that changes the way DPI is handled when adjusted. The G300 is not affected by the ripple effect (mislabeled as jitter by users). Below is a quote from the Logitech forum. FWIW: I have been unable to find any time in which the ripple or if you prefer to call it jitter affects me. I have my mouse at 3600dpi and 1000hz polling rate except some older games that work better at 500hz. No issues.

Anyway I think the G300 can be a good mouse for some people who want extra buttons at their finger tips and not the thumb position.

The G400's sensor has two "native" DPI settings - 800 and 3600. 400 and 1800 are achieved by throwing half the counts away from these values before the data is sent over USB. This is exactly the same way that the MX518 worked, except that there was no 3600 native setting - the maximum was 1800.

LGS does not introduce "jitter" (the appropriate term is "ripple" - jitter is when the cursor moves with no physical input), and the observed behavior is not the result of an attempt to work around angle snapping. The ripple behavior is from the sensor of the mouse being pushed to its limit, and the ripple effect may be more pronounced on some textured surfaces.

At 3600 DPI, the sensor is much more sensitive to patterns (regular or irregular) in the surface than it is at 800 DPI. It is also more sensitive than the MX518 at 1800 DPI. This is why at 3600 DPI on a table with a high-contrast wood grain you can see a lot of skipping around.

The way 8.01 and below worked was to set the mouse's internal DPI value to 3600 and downscale from there. There was, obviously, a visible side effect that resulted from this. Since the 3600 DPI setting produces more visible ripple during tracking than the lower 800 DPI setting, particularly on patterned surfaces, taking that input and throwing counts away from it results in behavior with LGS running that is different from the behavior without.

As of 8.12, we are setting the DPI value of the mouse to the next highest value and downscaling from there. So if the value you want to set is 750, we downscale from 800. If it's 850, we downscale from 1800. This will mean that DPI settings above 800 will still not produce the same perfect lines that 800 and below produce. They will be closer to the lines that 1800 DPI produces. Below 400 DPI will be scaled from 400 DPI. And above 1800 DPI will look more like 3600 DPI.

There are many surfaces that are not optimal for optical sensors. One of the biggest downsides of optical sensors is that they are more surface-dependent than laser sensors. For best performance it is recommended to use a surface that is fairly uniform and does not have a lot of high-contrast lines/patterns or a glossy finish on it. A solid-color cloth pad is one of the more optimal surfaces to use for optical sensors. This is particularly true if you will be using the mouse at over 800 DPI, as the higher the resolution the more potential there is for the sensor to report erratically. 
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I just tested new software for G400
That ripple bug is still there but not as bad as it was in previous LGS.
400/ 800/ 1800/ 3600 dpi are perfect in software with 500hz applied
Any values in between those dpi are bit shakey but more playable.

Hopefully they will fix in new releases.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toopz;15362025 
I just tested new software for G400
That ripple bug is still there but not as bad as it was in previous LGS.
400/ 800/ 1800/ 3600 dpi are perfect in software with 500hz applied
Any values in between those dpi are bit shakey but more playable.

Hopefully they will fix in new releases.

If you read the info it basically says it's faking the DPI through software when you are selecting something other than 800 or 3600.
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post #10 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by toopz;15362025 
I just tested new software for G400
That ripple bug is still there but not as bad as it was in previous LGS.
400/ 800/ 1800/ 3600 dpi are perfect in software with 500hz applied
Any values in between those dpi are bit shakey but more playable.

Hopefully they will fix in new releases.

I use 400 dpi and 1000 hz in my G400 software, works perfectly.
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