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Originally Posted by Xenthos View Post
Well... obviously yes. BD sucks. I sure hope piledriver fixes IPC or AMD could be out of the CPU business for a few more years. Giving Intel the absolute monopoly, which in turn would enable governments world wide to split Intel up.
Intel would soon make a chip FOR amd before this happens.
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The price is already being cut yet we are yet to see them arrive in Australia
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Intel would soon make a chip FOR amd before this happens.
That's funny because Intel would most likely never do so.
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Intel will likely only sell their faulty chips to AMD.
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You have to realize something. AMD's FX is geared to mainstream pricing. If Intel released a $600 CPU of course they won't drop the price because it is not geared towards selling the most chips.

When it comes to servers its different. $600 won't buy you anything with Intel, but AMD $600 can buy a 12 or 14 core cpu. Compared to Intels $2000-$3000 per processor.

Point is it is all about markets. AMD has to lower prices to get a chunk of the mainstream. Intel has mainstream products out that compete just fine. Intel has no competition in the extreme computing sector so they have no reason to drop prices.
But as I said in another thread, the FX-8150 doesn't cater to anyone.

Its not an enthusiast level chip since SB-E, highend X58 and even 2500k/2600k perform better in most cases.

It's not midrange because its single core and core clock performance is abysmal and 90% of people (and almost 100% of average joe's) only use applications utilising up to four cores. Almost no one who buys a mainstream CPU uses >Quad threaded applications (a very small minority). So its not mid-range.

Its not a low range chip because of its price.

Finally, its not an enterprise level chip because even though in > quad threaded applications it is faster than an i7 2600k, the absolutely absurd power draw rules it out of contention. Especially if one was to setup a render farm running FX-8150 setups 24/7 for weeks on end. Efficiency is very important in the enterprise market place. So even if an i7 2600k is say 20% slower, it consumes around 50% less power? So enterprise is gonna go for the SB over the BD pretty much any day of the week.

So really, AMD aren't targeting anything with the FX-8150. Its essentially a "nothing" chip. It doesn't do anying well enough to fit anywhere. As I said before, it doesn't perform high enough to be enthusiast, its single thread and core clock performance is woeful which rules it out for mum and dad use when the same price Intel will pwn the poop out of the FX8150 for their needs, its too expensive for low-end use and finally, its MUCH too inefficient to be an option for enterprise.

Sure, the price discrepency between Intels enterprise chips and AMD's is quite large, but when you are running 100% load, or very close to, for days/weeks/months on end. The efficiency of the Intel's pay themselves off EXTREMELY quickly. Not to mention, in a server room, with the stupid power draw of BD can you imagine how damn hot it would get in there? Cooling server rooms is a big issue, so going with a more efficient, cooler running yet more expensive product is the choice they will make. Especially when the more expensive product will pay itself off in a matter of months for most big businesses.

So no, AMD aren't targeting any market with the FX-8150. Its completely pointless
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Well... obviously yes. BD sucks. I sure hope piledriver fixes IPC or AMD could be out of the CPU business for a few more years. Giving Intel the absolute monopoly, which in turn would enable governments world wide to split Intel up.
Why on earth would you want Intel to be split up?

They are the only mainstream CPU manufacturer actually pushing the boundaries and making tech advancements. AMD are too far behind and don't have enough R&D dollars to invest in new technologies.

As much as people think Intel being a monopoly would suck, we need Intel to stay as they are. Because there's no way in hell AMD will be developing any revolutionary tech in the near future.

Mainstream advancements are coming from Intel and enterprise advancements from IBM.

So I hope to god that Intel won't ever be split up. Its a lose - lose scenario.

Ultimately, if they have too, they will just float AMD. Maybe strike a deal by giving them some new patents and then taking a cut off profits or something?

Either way, Intel will keep AMD alive one way or another. Unless IBM was to enter the domestic market again. Then just let AMD's CPU division die and bring IBM into the game (we can only hope they return, even as a 3rd company. Would be awesome for all)
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Ill say this again: You can't compare sale prices to retail prices. When retail prices drop, so will sales prices.
MC has had the 2500k at 179.99 for at least 5 months straight. Its not a sale price, it's their retail price. And any store that price matched will honor it, since its been printed in every monthly catalog i've gotten from MC since I signed up for them.
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HAHAHA AMD, FAIL
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HAHAHA AMD, FAIL
I'm an Intel guy, but people posting stuff like you did should be banned plain and simple.
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