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Originally Posted by tout;15340029 
This only applies to outside of the USA. Prices in Europe are much higher than prices in the USA due to all the taxes and tariffs imposed. It has nothing to do with performance like these sensationalist website try to claim to get hits. It is more than likely AMD trying to get prices down in Europe to gain sales. Even these 'reduced' prices are far higher than what Americans can buy the CPUs for.

People really should think before posting.

Funny thing is.

If Intel released an 8 core CPU running stock at 3.6GHz and turbo up to 3.9GHz 8c/4.2GHz 4c it would probably retail for about $600+ and sell perfectly fine without needing a price drop 5 days later. Not to mention it would likey perform about 40-50% faster than the FX-8150.

But coz its AMD and their architecture sucks, they need to drop the price becuase its not selling because people know that for what they are paying, they are being ripped off. Only an idiot would pay 245 Euros for an FX-8150. They perform worse than Phenom II's in some cases and 3 year old Intel chips as well.

So it is poor performance causing the price drop. Because if they were performing well, people would pay the price (as Intel has shown for years now). But when you release a product that under performs you can either go one of two ways. 1) Do nothing and continue to see sales decline or 2) Slash the price, essentially admit your chip sucks and just get rid of the stock any way possible. AMD have opted for option 2.

They are just gonna slash the prices, get rid of the stock and then pretend as if nothing ever happened and continue working on the piledriver chips praying to god that they wont have the same issues.

It sucks for the poor bastards that paid 245 euro, but that's what you get for putting your brand attachments ahead of research and just blindly following AMD rather than looking at the facts and realising what you are buying is inferior in almost every way to the competition.
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Originally Posted by tout;15340029 
This only applies to outside of the USA. Prices in Europe are much higher than prices in the USA due to all the taxes and tariffs imposed. It has nothing to do with performance like these sensationalist website try to claim to get hits. It is more than likely AMD trying to get prices down in Europe to gain sales. Even these 'reduced' prices are far higher than what Americans can buy the CPUs for.

People really should think before posting.

hey tout not everyone lives in the good old US of A, unfortunately for you the whole world does not revolve around just where you live!. perhaps people such as yourself should think before posting?
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Originally Posted by Vengeance47;15340135 
Funny thing is.

If Intel released an 8 core CPU running stock at 3.6GHz and turbo up to 3.9GHz 8c/4.2GHz 4c it would probably retail for about $600+ and sell perfectly fine without needing a price drop 5 days later. Not to mention it would likey perform about 40-50% faster than the FX-8150.

But coz its AMD and their architecture sucks, they need to drop the price becuase its not selling because people know that for what they are paying, they are being ripped off. Only an idiot would pay 245 Euros for an FX-8150. They perform worse than Phenom II's in some cases and 3 year old Intel chips as well.

So it is poor performance causing the price drop. Because if they were performing well, people would pay the price (as Intel has shown for years now). But when you release a product that under performs you can either go one of two ways. 1) Do nothing and continue to see sales decline or 2) Slash the price, essentially admit your chip sucks and just get rid of the stock any way possible. AMD have opted for option 2.

They are just gonna slash the prices, get rid of the stock and then pretend as if nothing ever happened and continue working on the piledriver chips praying to god that they wont have the same issues.

It sucks for the poor bastards that paid 245 euro, but that's what you get for putting your brand attachments ahead of research and just blindly following AMD rather than looking at the facts and realising what you are buying is inferior in almost every way to the competition.


Economics 101. *good post* shame it will fall on deaf ears frown.giffrown.gif
 
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Originally Posted by Masked;15340042 
Gonna say it again.

Do a search on Intel's quad core release when they first released the Q6600s vs the E8400's.

You all hailed it as a titan, even though core for core it was NOT equal, you all hailed it as the best thing since sliced bread.

Now that a similar situation has arisen...In fact the exact same situation, it's hailed as a failure...a lie...fake.

I think you all need to stop being hypocrites and realize that occasionally it takes a small step backwards in order to take a giant leap forwards.

That is all.

Great post. Hopefully AMD can turn this architecture around.
    
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Originally Posted by Wishmaker;15340146 
Economics 101. *good post* shame it will fall on deaf ears frown.giffrown.gif

i didnt know economics involved some nerd rambling about "architecture" so he can feel better about his cpu choice to play games on
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Originally Posted by Vengeance47;15340135 
Funny thing is.

If Intel released an 8 core CPU running stock at 3.6GHz and turbo up to 3.9GHz 8c/4.2GHz 4c it would probably retail for about $600+ and sell perfectly fine without needing a price drop 5 days later. Not to mention it would likey perform about 40-50% faster than the FX-8150.

But coz its AMD and their architecture sucks, they need to drop the price becuase its not selling because people know that for what they are paying, they are being ripped off. Only an idiot would pay 245 Euros for an FX-8150. They perform worse than Phenom II's in some cases and 3 year old Intel chips as well.

So it is poor performance causing the price drop. Because if they were performing well, people would pay the price (as Intel has shown for years now). But when you release a product that under performs you can either go one of two ways. 1) Do nothing and continue to see sales decline or 2) Slash the price, essentially admit your chip sucks and just get rid of the stock any way possible. AMD have opted for option 2.

They are just gonna slash the prices, get rid of the stock and then pretend as if nothing ever happened and continue working on the piledriver chips praying to god that they wont have the same issues.

It sucks for the poor bastards that paid 245 euro, but that's what you get for putting your brand attachments ahead of research and just blindly following AMD rather than looking at the facts and realising what you are buying is inferior in almost every way to the competition.

You have to realize something. AMD's FX is geared to mainstream pricing. If Intel released a $600 CPU of course they won't drop the price because it is not geared towards selling the most chips.

When it comes to servers its different. $600 won't buy you anything with Intel, but AMD $600 can buy a 12 or 14 core cpu. Compared to Intels $2000-$3000 per processor.

Point is it is all about markets. AMD has to lower prices to get a chunk of the mainstream. Intel has mainstream products out that compete just fine. Intel has no competition in the extreme computing sector so they have no reason to drop prices.
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Never believe the hype.
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Originally Posted by tout;15340029 
This only applies to outside of the USA. Prices in Europe are much higher than prices in the USA due to all the taxes and tariffs imposed. It has nothing to do with performance like these sensationalist website try to claim to get hits. It is more than likely AMD trying to get prices down in Europe to gain sales. Even these 'reduced' prices are far higher than what Americans can buy the CPUs for.

People really should think before posting.
This.
Hardware is so much more expensive here in europe, they usually just take the dollar prices 1:1 without calculating currency difference hence why the 8150 ended up with an exact 245 euro while its only 245 USD in the us.. thats almost a 100 USD more.
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Originally Posted by Vengeance47;15340135 
Funny thing is.

If Intel released an 8 core CPU running stock at 3.6GHz and turbo up to 3.9GHz 8c/4.2GHz 4c it would probably retail for about $600+ and sell perfectly fine without needing a price drop 5 days later. Not to mention it would likey perform about 40-50% faster than the FX-8150.

But coz its AMD and their architecture sucks, they need to drop the price becuase its not selling because people know that for what they are paying, they are being ripped off. Only an idiot would pay 245 Euros for an FX-8150. They perform worse than Phenom II's in some cases and 3 year old Intel chips as well.

So it is poor performance causing the price drop. Because if they were performing well, people would pay the price (as Intel has shown for years now). But when you release a product that under performs you can either go one of two ways. 1) Do nothing and continue to see sales decline or 2) Slash the price, essentially admit your chip sucks and just get rid of the stock any way possible. AMD have opted for option 2.

They are just gonna slash the prices, get rid of the stock and then pretend as if nothing ever happened and continue working on the piledriver chips praying to god that they wont have the same issues.

It sucks for the poor bastards that paid 245 euro, but that's what you get for putting your brand attachments ahead of research and just blindly following AMD rather than looking at the facts and realising what you are buying is inferior in almost every way to the competition.

not really. With this kind of stats it would probably end up being an "extreme edition" and retail for 1000$ just like all of the X editions.

Also, 40-50% faster? Do the math, an 8 core Sandy Bridge with that clocks would be twice as fast as the FX-8150, if not even faster. So 100-120% is more realistic tongue.gif
The FX-8150 is merely on 2500k level which is 4 cores @ 3,3 ghz.
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Originally Posted by Vengeance47;15340135 
Funny thing is.

If Intel released an 8 core CPU running stock at 3.6GHz and turbo up to 3.9GHz 8c/4.2GHz 4c it would probably retail for about $600+ and sell perfectly fine without needing a price drop 5 days later. Not to mention it would likey perform about 40-50% faster than the FX-8150.

But coz its AMD and their architecture sucks, they need to drop the price becuase its not selling because people know that for what they are paying, they are being ripped off. Only an idiot would pay 245 Euros for an FX-8150. They perform worse than Phenom II's in some cases and 3 year old Intel chips as well.

So it is poor performance causing the price drop. Because if they were performing well, people would pay the price (as Intel has shown for years now). But when you release a product that under performs you can either go one of two ways. 1) Do nothing and continue to see sales decline or 2) Slash the price, essentially admit your chip sucks and just get rid of the stock any way possible. AMD have opted for option 2.

They are just gonna slash the prices, get rid of the stock and then pretend as if nothing ever happened and continue working on the piledriver chips praying to god that they wont have the same issues.

It sucks for the poor bastards that paid 245 euro, but that's what you get for putting your brand attachments ahead of research and just blindly following AMD rather than looking at the facts and realising what you are buying is inferior in almost every way to the competition.

Not sure if serious... but if you are, it really isn't as simple as that.

Also, the Bulldozer architecture doesn't suck. Far from it.
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You know what I noticed? Folks are saying BD is for the future AFTER the chip was released. If this chip was so future proof, why is AMD already gearing Piledriver to release next year?
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