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Hi guys, after a chat w/ my dad's friend he said that if i'm mainly gaming i should buy ATi/AMD instead of nVidia/Intel.




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AMD FX-8150 8-core 3.8GHz processor
ASUS Crosshair V Thunderbolt
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What do you think? and should I wait for the 7970 VGA card?
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post #2 of 18
Have you considered the 2500k?

-drop the AS5.

Maybe you could wait for the 7 series
Quote:
"The first 28nm AMD HD 7000 series GPUs will arrive in Q4 of this year (from October to December)"

Edited by andrewmchugh - 10/17/11 at 8:23am
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Your dad's friend is wrong, no offence. if you are gaming you should go i5-2500K and a GTX 580 3GB. If you are looking for a budget, you should go with AMD and do not go with the FX processor right now... the i5-2500K wipes the floor with the 8 core bulldozer. Games only use at most 4 cores anyways. Most games are still only utilizing 2 cores. Also, a 3GB 580 should run everything at max at a 1080p res with very playable frame rates, maybe not 100+ FPS, but at least 50+.
Edited by Ironman517 - 10/17/11 at 8:24am
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post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by andrewmchugh View Post
Have you considered the 2500k?

-drop the AS5.
but i5 is 4-core. the FX is 8 core...

why drop the AS5?
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Originally Posted by TK421 View Post
but i5 is 4-core. the FX is 8 core...

why drop the AS5?
Yeh but the FX is poor, its not worth the price tag.. and unless AMD have got a bios fault with the FX, the 2500k is equal or better in bench marks.
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Originally Posted by TK421 View Post
but i5 is 4-core. the FX is 8 core...

why drop the AS5?
The AS5 isn't needed because Corsair puts Shin-Etsu paste pre-applied to their H-series coolers.

Your dad's friend is right if you're gaming on a budget, but it looks like with your budget you can afford Intel.

Also, gaming currently won't be helped at all by 8-cores over 4. No game out there supports that.
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post #7 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by TK421 View Post
but i5 is 4-core. the FX is 8 core...
The i5 has 4 really fast cores, the FX is 8 slow cores I think I read somewhere that it doesnt have "true" cores either. But I am not sure where I read it.

Also, just because it has 8 cores, you would think it would be faster (I used to think so too), but it is not the case. It is not built as well as the intel 1155 processors.

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Here is a benchmark if you don't believe us
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post #8 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by TK421 View Post
but i5 is 4-core. the FX is 8 core...

why drop the AS5?
I will try to explain it to you in another way.
Would you rather have 4 euro or 8 usd? Each Euro
is stronger than each USD. 4 Euro beats 8 USD.
The i7 2600k is better than the new 8 core by AMD,
even though the new AMD was just released this month.
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Originally Posted by andrewmchugh View Post
Yeh but the FX is poor, its not worth the price tag.. and unless AMD have got a bios fault with the FX, the 2500k is equal or better in bench marks.
Should i wait for a BIOS fix?



Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavi View Post
The AS5 isn't needed because Corsair puts Shin-Etsu paste pre-applied to their H-series coolers.

Your dad's friend is right if you're gaming on a budget, but it looks like with your budget you can afford Intel.

Also, gaming currently won't be helped at all by 8-cores over 4. No game out there supports that.
how does the shin-etsu compare to AS5?

does game run better on intel rather than AMD?
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post #10 of 18
Don't want to sound mean but your dad's friend is either a fan-boy, or out of date by like 10 years, or just talking about GPUs. Intel's CPUs are by far the best and the 2500k is the best gaming CPU out and at the most is priced at $220 USD. GPUs on the other hand you really can't go wrong with choosing either HD6000 series is a great set of cards. If you want the most performance drop the AMD CPU and mobo and pick up a 2500k and a P67 or Z68 mobo and OC it to 4.5 or higher. You will regret it if you pick up a BD proc or a thuban if all you are gonna do is game. I am no fan-boy either I just choose which ever is better at the time. GPUs I choose based on how many drivers I have recently had with either one and then compare to the prices haha.
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