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does game run better on intel rather than AMD?
Since the intel processors are faster, yes expecially CPU intensive games like Starcraft. If you were playing a non CPU intensive game, maybe like BF3, you might see a 5 FPS increase in intel.

The bios fix is not something worth waiting for. An 8 core is useless for gaming. Since you will have atleast 4 cores not being utilized by the game.
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simply put the 2500k will smoke the ALL AMD CPUs out for gaming at the moment and you should NOT choose a BD FX chip cuz the are a MASSIVE disappointment.
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Should i wait for a BIOS fix?



how does the shin-etsu compare to AS5?



does game run better on intel rather than AMD?
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shin-etsu compare to AS5
IIRC shin-etsu is no longer used on them now.

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Should i wait for a BIOS fix?
I honesty dont think thats going to be the case I just think that its a bad egg.
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does game run better on intel rather than AMD?
Games are down to the GPU really, but I would be picking a 2500k.
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Games are down to the GPU really, but I would be picking a 2500k.
This is normally the case. All depends on the game though. But I agree, most games are going to be GPU intensive rather than CPU intensive. I also agree on the i5-2500K
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post #15 of 18
Hello TK421,

There were many years there where AMD really shined on the CPU front, in recent years things have changed quite a bit. While AMD still makes very useful CPUs in their price segment (not counting bulldozer, which is very overpriced currently), AMD is basically selling more cores, and less per core performance, at a reduced cost. In the world of heavy duty productivity apps like engineering apps or video editing, or operating a very heavily loaded server, all those cores can come into play and perform as good or better than intel systems for the same dollar. When it comes to gaming, the VAST majority of games still only utlize 1-3 cores, and the performance of those games, is directly associated with the number of instruction per cycle on 1-3 cores combined with the clock speed of the CPU. As it stands currently, Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs are delivering roughly 40% better per-cycle-per-core performance than AMD phenom II or Bulldozer. What this translates to is better gaming performance with an Intel CPU in the vast majority of cases. As it turns out, the vast majority of games will perform better with a dual core intel i3-2100, than any AMD CPU available at any price. Move up to an i5-2500, and there isn't an AMD CPU that can compete in any gaming contest. In fact, even of you allow overclocking on the AMD CPU, there is no realistic stable overclock that will compete with the stock speed of an i5-2500.

The 8150 is currently priced higher than a 2500K, yet, the 2500K has substantially better per core performance, which translates to better gaming performance. Even in heavily threaded comparisons where all 8 cores are used (no games use 8 cores), the 8150 finds itself between the i5-2500 and i7-2600 quad cores. Even worse, bulldozer will use substantially more power doing it, which translates to more heat, more waste, etc.

If you have a budget range that can afford an 8150 and nice build around it, then you will do yourself a favor by using that budget to get a 2500K and a step better GPU than would be afforded on the AMD config.
     
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:/

i will consider the intel, i've read a full review of the i7, i5, fx-8150, thuban 1100t

but the motherboards sure is expensive :|
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post #17 of 18
Go with the one that is in your price range and budget. What else will you be using the computer for? Maybe that will help you decide on what you should look into. Get a good motherboard and you'll be happy you did! I didn't think I would even care to over clock my PC as much as I have but I am overly thankful I purchased such a great mobo to do so.
post #18 of 18
Wow way to knock the kid around..
Here i will answer this as not a fanboy as either.
Buy what you want to buy.
Is the FX really going to affect you in gaming? No it’s not going to bottleneck your video card.Which is a good thing..

However you could and more than likely will see this if you friends have an i5/7
You might get 86fps in a game using a FX were using a i5/7 you getting 95/100..
And you might winrar a file in 2.21sec instead of 2min or 1.95sec.

To be honest if your a gamer and you are just doing normal computer stuff nothing hardcore..
It really doesn't matter go with what you want.

If you have an FX and the Guy next to you has an i5 while you are playing Battlefield 3(the game will look the same) the game doesn't care what you have, in your box--it matters are you better than him..

And just to piss him off---if you have a FX and you kill him just say that's because I'm running a Faildozzer i mean bulldozer in my computer...
Edited by zewi - 10/17/11 at 10:50am
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