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Need a Sub for my setup (Xonar STX + M-Audio AV 40's)

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Well, I bought the Xonar Essence STX and hooked it up the the speakers I have had for years (Klipsch 2.1 Pro Media). It sounded great. A big improvement.

So I bought the MAudio AV 40 speakers. Well, they sound lackluster without a sub to round out the proper sound and lower frequencies. I am also thinking in order to evaluate these speakers I need a good matching sub for my sound card and speakers. Otherwise without it they sound a little harsh (maybe even tinny) where the Klipsch sound warm. Then again they have a sub and the dynamic could change with a sub.

Thoughts are appreciated as well as recommendations for a proper sub. The only two things I could think of you need to know beyond the soundcard (Xonar Essence STX) is room dimension (11x17) and budget (not set as I want what is appropriate, not overkill or el cheap).
post #2 of 27
Those AV40s are active 2.0s so i would say easiest is nab a sub with RCA in and out like the Dayton SUB-80/100?
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-631
Edited by trog - 10/17/11 at 10:18pm
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12" and 600+W is a bit overkill I would think. Doesn't HSU or Velodyne have decent subs? That Dayton Audio seems reasonable.
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velodyne has an impact mini 180w [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Velodyne-Impact-Mini-Powered-Subwoofer-Small/dp/B001GON5CE"]Amazon.com: Velodyne Impact-Mini Powered Subwoofer - Small (Black): Electronics[/ame] that occasionally goes on sale for ~$180, but i think that ANY stand alone sub would be overkill, being paired off with the AV-40s. maybe the dayton sub or some 50w speaker company sub (polk, klipsch, yamaha maybe).
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Originally Posted by 9Chiba;15356160 
velodyne has an impact mini 180w Amazon.com: Velodyne Impact-Mini Powered Subwoofer - Small (Black): Electronics that occasionally goes on sale for ~$180, but i think that ANY stand alone sub would be overkill, being paired off with the AV-40s. maybe the dayton sub or some 50w speaker company sub (polk, klipsch, yamaha maybe).

Not meaning any offense, but a sub is not overkill just because speakers may not be powerful themselves. Which for mids and highs they are very powerful for a computer set of speakers. My Klipsch 2.1 speakers are definitely complimented by the included standalone sub for instance. So I don't really think that stands to reason.

Really, I need a sub that matches their power and will fit nicely in my 11x17 bedroom which probably is an 8" sub or no larger than a 10" sub.

But, I think perhaps this is best directed to a true audio forum where this an everyday question and easier to handle. We have some smart people on OCN regarding audio, but not many compared to the overall volume.
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I am interested in knowing how you are going to hook up the sub to the STX when your left and right channels are going to the AV40's.

I was in the same situation. I have the AV40's and needed a sub. I am using my logitech sub right now because they are very decent. Although, I am running with a sound card that has 5.1 so I use the third connector for my sub and just use bass management to get it to work with all programs.

Some subs have an input and output which would be a plus for you. Into the sub from the sound card, then from the sub into the AV40's. I am actually looking into that too since I will upgrade my sound card in the future and my sub.
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Originally Posted by AMC;15361184 
I am interested in knowing how you are going to hook up the sub to the STX when your left and right channels are going to the AV40's.

I was in the same situation. I have the AV40's and needed a sub. I am using my logitech sub right now because they are very decent. Although, I am running with a sound card that has 5.1 so I use the third connector for my sub and just use bass management to get it to work with all programs.

Some subs have an input and output which would be a plus for you. Into the sub from the sound card, then from the sub into the AV40's. I am actually looking into that too since I will upgrade my sound card in the future and my sub.

Eff me. It wasn't even a thought on a subwoofer being an issue. But, now I see that is an issue for sure.

Could you use the SPDIF output to go to a subwoofer? I know it is for mic, but still....
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Originally Posted by RoddimusPrime;15361373 
Eff me. It wasn't even a thought on a subwoofer being an issue. But, now I see that is an issue for sure.

Could you use the SPDIF output to go to a subwoofer? I know it is for mic, but still....

I don't know but I don't think so. The SPDIF I believe is digital 5.1 for receivers and the like. That is something you will have to read about. But I am pretty sure you can't. Remember some subs will have RCA input and output so that you can run the left right through them, and then out to the speakers. That way you can hook up the AV40's to the sub. Every sub is different too so you will have to look around.
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Those speakers only go down to about 85Hz as the lowest. So you'll want either the Dayton SUB80 or SUB100. The SUB120 (or anything else that goes below 30Hz) will be pointless, because you'll just be dirtying it up with higher frequencies too.

Setup won't be too bad. Get a 3.5mm Y adapter and a 3.5mm to RCA cable (mono, or get a RCA Y adapter to convert it to mono) for the subwoofer. If the subwoofer happens to have stereo RCA inputs, then forget the mono part. You'll need to use Windows to control the volume. It's not the most optimal of ways to do things, but with active speakers, that's the only way it'll work.....well, at least without physically modifying your AV40's.
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