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yuppage black from me too.
 
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yuppage black from me too.
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post #13 of 21
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i love the linear feel and the sound of it bottoming out (is that weird? lol)
No, it has a diffrent sound to it that I must agree is somewhat pleasing especially on plate mounted MX Blacks.
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post #14 of 21
Considering that you would prefer a quieter typing experience and already bottom out on blue switches, I think going with black switches would be the better choice. Bottoming out while typing is really not a big deal unless you're trying to type more quietly or dislike the clack sound.

Keep in mind though that while gaming, you'll probably bottom out regardless of what switch you use. Both switches will most likely produce similar noise levels while gaming. Ultimately, it may just come down to whether you prefer stiff switches (black) or light switches (red). Good luck!
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post #15 of 21
Depends on what your style is.

Red's are going to bottom out like crazy. I use a Filco Tenkeyless w/ Reds. It bottoms out like crazy and is like typing on air VERY VERY LIGHT.

The type of games that I play require (or I guess I should say how I play them at least) a LOT of double tapping/spamming so my fingers fatigue really easily which is why I like my reds because I can pound and spam away without getting that fatigue or to much kickback from the switch.
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post #16 of 21
Blacks are too heavy and cause me to have finger fatigue pretty quick, I much prefer reds.
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post #17 of 21
Blacks are decent, but they are very "springy" feeling and becoming very "exact" with movement in games can take a while of adjusting. At first on the WSAD cluster you are going to be holding down several directions at the same time "ie: strafting back and forth while shooting in a FPS."

Your exactness in movement is going to suffer until you get used to the spring force and the activation point on the switch. At least thats the experience I had when I first got my 6Gv2. It is about 1000x better for gaming than that ABS M1 i started with tho. Those fukkas were terrible for gaming.

I personally went with browns on my noppoo choc mini and found them MUCH more enjoyable and precise for gaming. When I purchased my current filco, mx browns were a given.

The amount of force required didn't really make much of a difference to me, but the tactile feel of the switch near the activation point was like just very very natural feeling to me. I was used to the keyboard in a matter of minutes, while the mx blacks took days/weeks to really start developing some muscle memory for quick combinations of key presses/movements in games.

I think the reds would probably be a better key tbh. People always recommend blacks for gaming because they say the linear switch mixed with the stiffer spring makes for a great keyboard for quick keypresses and double taps, but tbh when you get good at gaming, your not really mashing your keys over and over. Its more about having great control over the activation point, not how many times you can bounce a key off the bottom in a given 5 second period.

I am personally going to try mx clears next. I hear they are kinda of like a mx black spring in a mx brown switch, with a different type of tactile bump, like its more pronounces or just feels different. Went ahead and pre-ordered a TKL Leopold and look forward to seeing how it feels.
    
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post #18 of 21
Red (45g) is Black (60g-80g) requiring less force.

Go with red.

No, they don't bottom faster they seem like they do.

2mm to short 4mm to bottom for both black and red.
Edited by theamdman - 10/20/11 at 9:39pm
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post #19 of 21
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So I just got my Choc Mini about half an hour ago. I'm definitely digging the black switches. They aren't too hard to type on and I'm not bottoming out the keys at all. I barely have to press a key to get it to actuate. Maybe I'm just a heavy typer.

I'm still curious about reds, but my enjoyment of the black switches has me questioning whether reds would be to light.
    
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post #20 of 21
I had the same question but after using MX Blacks for `8 months now, I cbf switching. I have strong fingers and always bottom out while gaming anyway.
    
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