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Im testing 3.6ghz with 1.325000v
and 1.3v Cpu Term
I got the ram speed back to 800 from 1020 , what do you think ? keep it at 1020 since its passed in memtest for 7 hours ? and adjust the cpu only ?

Thanks again for your support .... cheers
Once you determine your cpu is stable, I would definitely work squeezing more performance out of the ram. I would approach this in two ways. You could run at 800Mhz with tighter timings or leave timings alone and increase speed of memory. Both options will net you increased performance. As for which will net you the best performance, you would have to do some testing on your own there.
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post #12 of 28
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one core fails after 30 mins ...
What im missing here ?

i tested 3.6ghz with 1.325000V
and 1.4v CPU term ...

I guess the cpu voltage is enough for this speed ....
Any idea what i have to do else ?
post #13 of 28
Max vcore is 1.45v, so you still have quite a bit or room to play with. You just have to watch temps and make sure they don't go to high under load. Cpu term is fine where its at. You could try upping cpu pll from 1.5 to 1.57. That may help, but if not proceed with the following directions. I would up vcore by .01v till you hit 1.4v. At that point we may need to look at other settings. Honestly 1.4v vcore is high for a 3.6ghz oc, but maybe it is because its a C1. May get you to post your bios template again if it doesn't stabilize by the time you reach 1.4v vcore and cpu pll setting doesn't work.

edit: Also what is the vid of the cpu. Could you post a screen shot of cpuz?
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Max vcore is 1.45v, so you still have quite a bit or room to play with. You just have to watch temps and make sure they don't go to high under load. Cpu term is fine where its at. You could try upping cpu pll from 1.5 to 1.57. That may help, but if not proceed with the following directions. I would up vcore by .01v till you hit 1.4v. At that point we may need to look at other settings. Honestly 1.4v vcore is high for a 3.6ghz oc, but maybe it is because its a C1. May get you to post your bios template again if it doesn't stabilize by the time you reach 1.4v vcore and cpu pll setting doesn't work.

edit: Also what is the vid of the cpu. Could you post a screen shot of cpuz?
Too bad , that i got to 76C full load after 30 mins ... i guess 1.325000V makes my cpu too hot ...

i will stick with 1.30000 ... do you think it will get better increasing the pll and term voltages only to reach 3.6?

If not ... im going to buy the H60 Water cooler ... do you recommend it ? i saw someone OCing to 5ghz with this cooler :X

i must prepare my pc for BF3
post #15 of 28
You got 76c under full load running prime95? If so that is fine. Unless you use your rig to fold, video encoding, rendering, etc. you will not see those kind of temps in gaming or day to day use. Also, one thing to keep in mind is that you are not using LLC, which means you may be experiencing vdroop as well. So even though you set vcore to 1.325 it may be dropping to 1.28-1.29 maybe lower once cpu is under load. CPUZ will allow you to see the actual vcore under load, just run it along side prime.

I would try changing PLL to 1.57, but leave cpu term at 1.4v. I would not increase it more than that at your current FSB as it can result in the exact opposite effect if ran way to high. In a nutshell, cpu term increases signal strength of FSB to reduce noise and other interference that can cause instability. Running it too high can introduce the same phenomenon that it is intended to correct.

I do recommend an aftermarket cooler as the quads can get fairly hot under load. I am looking forward to BF3 as well. Played the beta and for most part loved it. When you get a chance you should add you computer specs to your sig via the usercp.

Edit: I don't recommend using LLC as the implementation of it on the ud3p does not allow the use of it in steps. I would just up vcore to compensate for vdroop.
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You got 76c under full load running prime95? If so that is fine. Unless you use your rig to fold, video encoding, rendering, etc. you will not see those kind of temps in gaming or day to day use. Also, one thing to keep in mind is that you are not using LLC, which means you may be experiencing vdroop as well. So even though you set vcore to 1.325 it may be dropping to 1.28-1.29 maybe lower once cpu is under load. CPUZ will allow you to see the actual vcore under load, just run it along side prime.

I would try changing PLL to 1.57, but leave cpu term at 1.4v. I would not increase it more than that at your current FSB as it can result in the exact opposite effect if ran way to high. In a nutshell, cpu term increases signal strength of FSB to reduce noise and other interference that can cause instability. Running it too high can introduce the same phenomenon that it is intended to correct.

I do recommend an aftermarket cooler as the quads can get fairly hot under load. I am looking forward to BF3 as well. Played the beta and for most part loved it. When you get a chance you should add you computer specs to your sig via the usercp.
Okey i will try to push the pll to 1.57v ... with 1.3250000 cpu , and 1.4v term

if not i will try to push the cpu to 1.33 or more with the new Water cooler ...

I have aftermarket cooler btw , but dont know .. its not that good .. i have full tower but it doesnt fit inside the case .. HUGE as hell , but still sucks ..
I will get that water cooler , seems better ..

See you later then .. Thanks very much for your time ..
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No problem man. Your welcome. BTW, welcome to OCN.
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I know that i talk too much , sorry if i annoy you asking many questions ...
But do you think 3.4Ghz is enough for all up to date games ?
I guess it is ... i mean 3.4Ghz is more than enough for BF3 since its all about graphic card ...

Right ?
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As the resolution and other graphical settings are scaled up, yes the cpu becomes less relevant as the gpu is given more work to do. In single card setups you should be okay at 1080p or greater at least in games that support multithreading.

What you can do to see if a bottleneck is present is monitor your cpu usage vs gpu usage. As long as you see close to 100% usage on the gpu then your cpu is doing it's job as it should. If you see the cpu at 100% and the gpu at <100% a bottleneck exists.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=142436

The two above links will provide you with the software to monitor gpu usage, framerate, temps, etc while in game. I do believe the latest MSI Afterburner can do some of this as well, but I am not sure.
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I know that i talk too much , sorry if i annoy you asking many questions ...
But do you think 3.4Ghz is enough for all up to date games ?
I guess it is ... i mean 3.4Ghz is more than enough for BF3 since its all about graphic card ...

Right ?
First check out Gigabyte EP45 UD3 guide here on OCN,they will help you with OC,as that Q9550 should do 4GHz on that board easily..

Now for BF3 a Q9550 @ 3.4GHz would be enough as that game is more GPU intensive (something like Crysis 2)..

Now check out my testing in Crysis 2 at three different CPU speed (2.8GHz, 3.4GHz and 3.9GHz) and you'll see that CPU is playing a 2nd role here as GPU is doing most of the work..

Testings were done @ 1280 x 1024 resolution to make test very CPU intensive!!


Q9550 @ 2.8GHz and RAM @ 1066MHz (CL7)

Average FPS - 74






Q9550 @ 3.4GHz and RAM @ 1600MHz (CL9)

Average FPS - 77






Q9550 @ 3.9GHz and RAM @ 1224MHz (CL7)

Average FPS - 78.4






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