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Well as i mention on my op i use a 1920x1080 led monitor (60hz). Btw that's why i was thinking to save my money and get a 580, but what if in a couple of weeks after i buy a 580 a 680 comes out? Also will i be able to play games with decent graphics for the next couple of years with a 580?

Thanks for the reply btw i appreciate it
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Single 1920x1080p monitor the difference between 2.0GB and 1.5GB is zero in VRAM intensive gaming. A GTX 580 1.5GB beats a 6970 2.0GB performance even where 1.5GB VRAM is surpassed in game usage on single monitor.

Your best choice given your mobo with single card option only is to go for the best up front and either the GTX 580 or AMD 6970 is your best bet. Yes, you'll be able to play for a couple of years. This year maxed settings and maybe next year might need to lower settings one notch but you'll be more than fine.

Next gen cards come out in late January, mid February if you can wait. Pricing will drop on the current gen cards shortly after and maybe you'll be able to buy a new GeForce GTX 680 or Radeon AMD 7970 card instead.
     
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GTX 480 came out what? A year and a half ago? They still out perform GTX 570 and 6970 (more like perform on par with those cards overclocked), but just to give you a little perspective of the lifespan of your cards more or less. So basically from that, you can assume the gtx 580 will perform on par with the gtx 670. There's really no word at all about architecture changes to the GTX 600 series, so it's really hard at this point to say whether or not they're actually worth waiting 4 months for.

According to some specs leaked about AMD 7xxx cards, the 7850 will basically have the same specs as the 6950 2GB, with half the power consumption and likely run alot cooler, also clocked 100mhz higher.

Personally, I'd go with something like the 6950 2GB..it's a decent card, runs all the games out at the moment at respectable settings...doesn't cost a terrible lot and will get the job done for the next couple years and even more so if you end up crossfiring them. I don't see the prices dropping on them much for awhile atleast, you could always resell it if something else comes out that you like, 2GB model will hold its value pretty well.
    
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Well with my current budget i can buy a 560ti and maybe even a 570, but if i save a bit more until next month i might be able to get the GTX 580 Lightning. However do you think I should get a 580?Or buy a 560ti just to be able to play BF3 and some other games until kepler comes out? Btw i saw a few people on forums proving that you can sli on a Gene Z(2 slot 580s sli) but i know its not ideal due to air restriction but i am not planning to go sli anytime soon anw.
What settings are you looking for in BF3? basically any gpu can play bf3 but at WHAT settings?

GTX 560 Ti probably can play at medium-high settings in BF3

If you want Ultra settings with everything turned up then you need the GTX 580. The lightning 3gb version isn't needed. Its nice to have it but if you paying for that price, unless you are planning to SLI two $600 gpus then its best to go for the GTX 590 for the 3GB VRAM and two gpu solutions in one.
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What settings are you looking for in BF3? basically any gpu can play bf3 but at WHAT settings?

GTX 560 Ti probably can play at medium-high settings in BF3

If you want Ultra settings with everything turned up then you need the GTX 580. The lightning 3gb version isn't needed. Its nice to have it but if you paying for that price, unless you are planning to SLI two $600 gpus then its best to go for the GTX 590 for the 3GB VRAM and two gpu solutions in one.
I want to be able to play everything maxed out but i was thinking to get the 560 just for 6 months until kelper comes out and then upgrade but i am not sure if its worth it. If i get the 580 it would be the MSI TFII or the MSI Lightning 1.5gb .
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GTX 480 came out what? A year and a half ago? They still out perform GTX 570 and 6970 (more like perform on par with those cards overclocked), but just to give you a little perspective of the lifespan of your cards more or less. So basically from that, you can assume the gtx 580 will perform on par with the gtx 670. There's really no word at all about architecture changes to the GTX 600 series, so it's really hard at this point to say whether or not they're actually worth waiting 4 months for.

According to some specs leaked about AMD 7xxx cards, the 7850 will basically have the same specs as the 6950 2GB, with half the power consumption and likely run alot cooler, also clocked 100mhz higher.

Personally, I'd go with something like the 6950 2GB..it's a decent card, runs all the games out at the moment at respectable settings...doesn't cost a terrible lot and will get the job done for the next couple years and even more so if you end up crossfiring them. I don't see the prices dropping on them much for awhile atleast, you could always resell it if something else comes out that you like, 2GB model will hold its value pretty well.
I thought about 6950 and its a great gpu and it will be able to run games fine but I am also interested on Physx and since i use Solidworks alot i think it will be better to go with Nvidia. So now I am thinking of two scenarios: 1) get a cheap gpu (used 560ti) that will allow me to play with decent graphics the upcoming titles and then upgrade to kelper or 2)I cant save money for a couple of weeks and get 580. But if i pay 400 pounds(600 dollars) i would not be upgrading to a 600 series so i will be stuck with my 580 untill maxwell , if i get 100 pound (200 dollar ) card i will probably upgrading to kelper. My intention is to run games for the next two year at high settings at 1080p. Based on the difference in performance from 480 to 580 it wont be too much of an upgrade but 600 series might be different and that's what bothering me.
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post #17 of 30
I just bought a 560ti, and for the price I think it's a pretty good deal. PLUS I didn't spend so much that say in a half a year, i'll be able to upgrade without having wasted 500 bucks.
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I just bought a 560ti, and for the price I think it's a pretty good deal. PLUS I didn't spend so much that say in a half a year, i'll be able to upgrade without having wasted 500 bucks.
Yeap thats exactly what i was thinking. But maybe it doenst worth it waiting for the new kelper or maybe it does so its a gamble. Another option is to upgrade to a 600 series in the future and use the 560ti as a dedicated physx card in the future or just sell it on ebay.
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post #19 of 30
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Ok Rep +1 to everyone. I will go for an MSI 580 TFII and maybe SLI in the future
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post #20 of 30
this is the perfect example of the technology conundrum of "should I buy or wait?"
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