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I wasn't going to buy Skyrim if Bethesda continued pushing this stupid lawsuit, now I'm torn on whether or not I should buy it or not. I'd like to see an apology to Mojang from Bethesda, show that they're not a company run by a bunch of money-grubbing idiots.



That's quite an assumption, considering the game is based around Mining and Crafting...
intentional comedy? lol
    
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My German sucks but after reading the court decision I lol'd so hard that I blew my shoulder out of the socket. Win for Indie.
Your German? It's a Swedish court...
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I wasn't going to buy Skyrim if Bethesda continued pushing this stupid lawsuit, now I'm torn on whether or not I should buy it or not. I'd like to see an apology to Mojang from Bethesda, show that they're not a company run by a bunch of money-grubbing idiots.



That's quite an assumption, considering the game is based around Mining and Crafting...
You're kidding on both of those parts, right?
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That. If Notch wins this trademark dispute he could use it to block the sales of Skyrim and any other Elder Scrolls game from sale. Think about the current situation Samsung is in with Apple using silly patents to block sales of their hardware.

I see nothing wrong with Bethesda trying to prevent the same thing from happening to them. Notch may not use the trademark to stop sales of the Elder Scrolls Series, but it does not mean that down the road someone else won't buy the trademark from Notch, or buyout his company and do so.
A finding that "Scrolls" doesn't impinge on the "Elder Scrolls" trademark goes both ways. It means Mojang and Bethesda are free to continue with both of their marks. If these two were in any sort of conflict, the older "Elder Scrolls" would clearly take precedent. This is the idea on which Bethesda is hanging their hat.

The idea of derivative works from patent law doesn't apply in trademarks. A trademark is a literal mark. A trademark on "Cola" doesn't mean you get to sue "Coca-Cola" and "RC Cola" unless the court finds that a reasonable person would get confused about what exactly they're buying.
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bethesda should've accepted the quake 3 duel lol
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Did you even read the kotaku article? He applied for a far reaching patent, so yes it would apply to TES.
Yes, I read the article.

It's a trademark, NOT a patent. Trademarks are for brands. Patents are for inventions of novel products and processes. The kotaku article is showing a bit of a misunderstanding of this distinction.
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My German sucks but after reading the court decision I lol'd so hard that I blew my shoulder out of the socket. Win for Indie.
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Your German? It's a Swedish court...
Apparently if you're bad enough at German you actually understand Swedish?
    
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You're kidding on both of those parts, right?
Not really, no. However, if Notch wins the ability to prevent the use of scrolls in any title and actually uses that against other companies in an unreasonable way then I would just as quickly stop support for Mojang. But it's a trademark he's applying for, not the ability to screw over other companies for something as stupid as using the word "Scrolls" in their product name.

I tend not to purchase products from companies whose actions I disagree with as a whole. For example, I currently won't buy Ubisoft products due to some shoddy games like Far Cry 2, and their idiotic use of DRM. The only thing businesses understand is money, so the best thing I can do as a consumer is not supporting stupid business decisions by giving these companies my money.

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A finding that "Scrolls" doesn't impinge on the "Elder Scrolls" trademark goes both ways. It means Mojang and Bethesda are free to continue with both of their marks. If these two were in any sort of conflict, the older "Elder Scrolls" would clearly take precedent. This is the idea on which Bethesda is hanging their hat.

The idea of derivative works from patent law doesn't apply in trademarks. A trademark is a literal mark. A trademark on "Cola" doesn't mean you get to sue "Coca-Cola" and "RC Cola" unless the court finds that a reasonable person would get confused about what exactly they're buying.
This.

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Yes, I read the article.

It's a trademark, NOT a patent. Trademarks are for brands. Patents are for inventions of novel products and processes. The kotaku article is showing a bit of a misunderstanding of this distinction.
And also this.
Edited by lordikon - 10/18/11 at 10:23am
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A finding that "Scrolls" doesn't impinge on the "Elder Scrolls" trademark goes both ways. It means Mojang and Bethesda are free to continue with both of their marks. If these two were in any sort of conflict, the older "Elder Scrolls" would clearly take precedent. This is the idea on which Bethesda is hanging their hat.

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Fine, I'll concede this debate to you since I don't have good understanding with legal terms and uses. It just seems like the rabbit hole goes much deeper than a simple 'big company is harassing a little company' thing.
    
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My German sucks but after reading the court decision I lol'd so hard that I blew my shoulder out of the socket. Win for Indie.
Fail.
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