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I agree but you never see anything advertised "featuring linux" because linux has, rightfully so, been known as a very non user friendly operating system.


Sure its great for running servers and the like. Its terrible for the average consumer.
I don't see that as an argument against his post. It still stands that a person at Starbucks on his MBP does not make the world go round. Neither does the person at home on his ultra powerfull Windows gaming rig. Offices use Windows, servers use *nix. The servers are a much, MUCH more critical piece.
    
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An 8 core CPU that is barely a step above my 3 year old one in single threaded performance and, according to half of these Linux benches, performs as well as or loses to a year and a half old 6 core CPU based on old tech. Very relevant info.
FX as of now is for a niche market of encoders and whatever integer workloads it actually performs well on. But judging from these Phoronix comparisons, if they can improve upon this design it should do well running fully encrypted systems. I imagine that's in a large part thanks to AMD targeting the server market with this uArch.
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This thing is getting compared to a 2.3ghz i7 2820m ghz LAPTOP CPU... and LOSING!

Also still losing to Thuban in many benchmarks.

This review is relevant how???
i could say most reviews for windows aren't relevant either, but they might be for some one.

it will be interesting to see how this cpu would perform on a patched kernel that is customized for BD, with one of the other shedulers that are tweaked for heavy threaded work loads.

since it seems to perform quite well in gcc test, these chips might make very good compiling farms for programmers.

and if you bothered to look at all the test, you wold notice there is a lot more than a thuban and a intel quadcore mobile cpu.
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I don't see that as an argument against his post. It still stands that a person at Starbucks on his MBP does not make the world go round. Neither does the person at home on his ultra powerfull Windows gaming rig. Offices use Windows, servers use *nix. The servers are a much, MUCH more critical piece.
Much much more eh? If there weren't machines in the office... there would be no need for the servers

They need each other to liiiiiive

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Try not to take that seriously I know what you meant
     
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Hey guys it's a new design and flaws will be there, you have to give them some time, let's see what the revised BD comes out as.
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Linux became popular in the Internet server market particularly due to the LAMP software bundle. In September 2008 Steve Ballmer (Microsoft CEO) claimed 60% of servers run Linux and 40% run Windows Server.[89]
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Linux is the most popular operating system among supercomputers due to its superior performance, flexibility, speed and lower costs. In November 2008 Linux held an 87.8 percent share of the world's top 500 supercomputers.[90][91][92][93][94]

As of June 2010 the operating systems used on the world's top 500 supercomputers were
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_adoption

yeah, linux is irrelevant.
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This thing is getting compared to a 2.3ghz i7 2820m ghz LAPTOP CPU... and LOSING!

Also still losing to Thuban in many benchmarks.

This review is relevant how???
Because the OP said so?

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Linux is great for SERVERS, not gaming Rigs, or Home Computers which Bulldozer was supposedly made for.

If you want a Bulldozer server chip, get Interlagos.

If you want to get into server market share, it's pretty ugly for AMD, since Intel holds 94.5%.

I own a few servers, and they all run Xeon's. Go to a few hosting companies, to buy a server, and try to find some that actually offer Opterons.
Edited by 2010rig - 10/18/11 at 11:56pm
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i could say most reviews for windows aren't relevant either, but they might be for some one.

it will be interesting to see how this cpu would perform on a patched kernel that is customized for BD, with one of the other shedulers that are tweaked for heavy threaded work loads.

since it seems to perform quite well in gcc test, these chips might make very good compiling farms for programmers.

and if you bothered to look at all the test, you wold notice there is a lot more than a thuban and a intel quadcore mobile cpu.
Athlon64 x2 4800+?
Phenom II x2?
Phenom II mobile chip?
Q9450?

I'm sorry but it's 2011 and this is AMD's flagship CPU which is being compared to what is basically random old hardware.

I did just realize that there is a 2600k listed under "messina" whatever that means, and it loses to it by a very large amount almost every single time.

But even then, can we take these results seriously?

I honestly can't believe you people are.

The "messina" machine is running 2 37 gig Raptors and has a GTS 450 while the Bulldozer is using a 300 gig VelociRaptor with an 8800 GT.

Since it's random users uploading their own data, this is hardly a proper benchmark or a realistic representation of Bulldozer.

Clearly the Windows results are less relevant than these
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post #39 of 58
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Because the OP said so?



What did I specifically say ? I linked some benchmarks. I sited my reason for this as we know the GNU compiler used pretty much prevents any sort of CPU dispatch hanky. But please, feel free to tell me what I said.
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IMO, this is why they target servers first with this CMT design. Easier to claw back server marketshare than compete for enthusiast dollars. I'm of the opinion the desktop FX line is where they are sending the hottest running validated chips.

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Because the OP said so?



Linux is great for SERVERS, not gaming Rigs, or Home Computers which Bulldozer was supposedly made for.

If you want a Bulldozer server chip, get Interlagos.

If you want to get into server market share, it's pretty ugly for AMD, since Intel holds 94.5%.

I own a few servers, and they all run Xeon's. Go to a few hosting companies, to buy a server, and try to find some that actually offer Opterons.
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