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Remove the L3 and it is perfect for desktop!

Sadly desktop gets the 70~ cycle slow L3
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Athlon64 x2 4800+?
Phenom II x2?
Phenom II mobile chip?
Q9450?

I'm sorry but it's 2011 and this is AMD's flagship CPU which is being compared to what is basically random old hardware.

I did just realize that there is a 2600k listed under "messina" whatever that means, and it loses to it by a very large amount almost every single time.

But even then, can we take these results seriously?

I honestly can't believe you people are.

The "messina" machine is running 2 37 gig Raptors and has a GTS 450 while the Bulldozer is using a 300 gig VelociRaptor with an 8800 GT.

Since it's random users uploading their own data, this is hardly a proper benchmark or a realistic representation of Bulldozer.

Clearly the Windows results are less relevant than these
not sure what you are getting at?

i know plenty of folks that are still using single-core Athlon and p4's, cause they've seen no reason to upgrade, same goes for software, plenty of people still using xp over vista and windows 7, as they can't see any reason or offerings that vista/7 offer them.

i myself more interested in how these cpu's handle encoding, apache, sql, compilation,and any other multi-threaded application i use than i am in how many fps they can get in games i don't play...

i guess some of us just live in a different world of computing. it seems we all strive for the best performance, but take different routes to get there, i for one try to get there thru hardware and software, its why i personally prefer opensource over proprietary, as i can run several optimization flags in gcc, that can net me 20% to 30% performance increase, over a standard binary package that was compiled with generic flags, without the need of buying newer hardware.

i've considered purchasing a bulldozer, due to it having 8 physical cores that i can manipulate for the task that i do, vs the 8 virtual cores that my current cpu gives me, but i'm now reconsidering either holding off for now, or waiting for the thuban's to drop in price, and snatching a few of those and setting up a farm with them .

and btw "messina" is the name the user gave to their system when they uploaded their results.
Edited by Transhour - 10/19/11 at 9:37am
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Remove the L3 and it is perfect for desktop!

Sadly desktop gets the 70~ cycle slow L3
This is possible, because they can still be connected by Hyper transport buses.

i don't really like the Large L2 cache it takes up quite a bit when you look at the die shots.
I think 512kbytes would have been fine, but I'm no engineer.
    
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Disabled L3 results would be interesting to see. Can the architecture handle that?
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i don't really like the Large L2 cache it takes up quite a bit when you look at the die shots.
I think 512kbytes would have been fine, but I'm no engineer.
Large L2 is just fine...it is the Large L3 and Small L1 that is the problem

If they make the L1 bigger and either make L3 faster or remove it people might see a 30% improvement in performance in most areas

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Disabled L3 results would be interesting to see. Can the architecture handle that?
Trinity with the Piledriver Core architecture will have disabled L3 results

FX-4K vs A8-XK would be an interesting benchmark
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Someone Posted some Core scaling results to look at comparative performance from workload results based on core count

These might be of interest to some of you.

http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...AR-AMDBULLDO28
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Here are results of fx4100 vrs A8 quad core and a few modern intel 4core cpus 2400 2500 etc.

This one should drive the IPC crowd crazy with the results. LOL.

http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...LI-1110171AR89
post #48 of 58
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Some results for 8150 vrs A8 vrs 2400 vrs 2500 vrs 2600

http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...AR-1110171AR78
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*snip

As someone who has run debian, redhat, suse, and ubuntu. I can tell you what linux needs. First of all it needs standardized drivers for modern hardware. You know I never got a webcam to work on linux. EVER. I never got onboard sound to work with linux! And Forget a PCI soundcard.

And lets not get into software. "oh but wine will run your games" Well out of 5 games that were rated gold (meaning they should run 100% of the time) on winehq's site I never got a single game to run on linux.

*snip
You either had really crappy hardware or no clue. I had no issue getting my webcams to work. All my onboard sound have worked over the years. Maybe you never turned on the audio? Many distros used to turn sound off by default. Never tried a PCI sound card since all my onboard worked flawlessly. You get some pops once in a while, though.

You must not have spent any time with Wine either because I got several games to run and some run natively under Linux if you know how to install them. World of Warcraft and Doom 3 come to mind.

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Some results for 8150 vrs A8 vrs 2400 vrs 2500 vrs 2600

http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...AR-1110171AR78
The FX 8150 is pretty much owning most of the benchmarks in that link. Good to see!
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Large L2 is just fine...it is the Large L3 and Small L1 that is the problem

If they make the L1 bigger and either make L3 faster or remove it people might see a 30% improvement in performance in most areas



Trinity with the Piledriver Core architecture will have disabled L3 results

FX-4K vs A8-XK would be an interesting benchmark
I was thinking the same thing about the L1
i mean everyone keep saying oh it only reaches the x6but yet the X6 has384Kbytes of L1 cache vs bulldozers 256Kbytes.

meh the L3 cache is most likely be only 15-20 watts of the power draw and it really only increase preformance by about 1-2%:1000mhz/1mbs
    
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