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This is planning stage for my upcoming i5 build. I dont have a specific motherboard picked out yet, but can you have a setup like this?

240gb (some sexy Sandforce thing) OS ssd
40gb Intel G2 ssd for the purpose of caching a 2tb hdd

I have seen people purchasing a largish ssd, partitioning it, and using it both as a boot drive and as cache. Which seems smart but honestly I already have a 40gb ssd and I'd rather have the whole 240gb available to me. The 40gb Intel G2 would not be faster than a new 240gb drive which I intend on purchasing. So if the Intel G2 attempted to cache the boot drive it would actually be a performance hit.

I just don't know what kind of options are available, would the 40gb drive attempt to 'cache' the 240gb boot drive? or can you specificlly tell it to only provide cache to the hdd.

Advice?
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This is planning stage for my upcoming i5 build. I dont have a specific motherboard picked out yet, but can you have a setup like this?

240gb (some sexy Sandforce thing) OS ssd
40gb Intel G2 ssd for the purpose of caching a 2tb hdd

I have seen people purchasing a largish ssd, partitioning it, and using it both as a boot drive and as cache. Which seems smart but honestly I already have a 40gb ssd and I'd rather have the whole 240gb available to me. The 40gb Intel G2 would not be faster than a new 240gb drive which I intend on purchasing. So if the Intel G2 attempted to cache the boot drive it would actually be a performance hit.

I just don't know what kind of options are available, would the 40gb drive attempt to 'cache' the 240gb boot drive? or can you specificlly tell it to only provide cache to the hdd.

Advice?
There's no real advantage of using SSD cache if you already have a large enough SSD to fit your O/S plus other things.

SSD cache is a jumping platform for those unwilling/cannot spend the money to purchase 128gb+ SSD, while at the same time wanting large HDD space

To use a small SSD to cache while running it with another SSD will only hurt your performance.
    
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Blah. Ok.
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I was kind of in this boat myself as a noob and wondering what to do ...

I purchased a Crucial M4 64GB SSD thinking I'd take advantage of this new Intel SRT SSD cache technology on my New Gene-Z68 board, and use my WD Cav' Blck as the HDD. But it seemed like an awkward implementation and I was advised I'd be better off and the system would perform faster/better using the SSD as the BOOT/OS drive and using the WD HDD for FILE Storage, etc.

So I did this but found myself butting up against the 64GB capacity rather fast w/ WIN7 PRO, Office and just one Game on the SDD. So I invested in a 128GB Crucial M4 SSD, and figured I could now use the 64GB SSD for that Cache, but nope it's just not really a perfected technology yet I don't think, and/or I just don't know enough about how to implement it properly at least. So ... here I am w/ 2 SSD's and a HDD. My setup configuration now is the 64GB JUST for BOOT/OS of WIN7 ONLY ... use the 128GB for PROGRAMS & GAMES ... and the 1TB HDD for all the FILE Storage and back-ups, etc.

I see you already have an 80gb Intel SSD , was that coming over into the New i5 build ? that would make a GREAT drive for your BOOT/OS drive, and then consider doing something like I did ... or IF you can afford it buy a larger SSD for Programs & FILES. The costs of SSD's come down daily and you can really find some great deals if you wait and look around for them, so a 250GB+ SSD isn't as much of a budget buster as it once was. But keeping ONLY WIN7 and the BOOT/OS info on the small SSD makes it easier to REFORMAT and replace it when needed, rather than having to reinstall ALL your other programs and files on the same SSD too. Something for you to consider.

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There's no real advantage of using SSD cache if you already have a large enough SSD to fit your O/S plus other things.

SSD cache is a jumping platform for those unwilling/cannot spend the money to purchase 128gb+ SSD, while at the same time wanting large HDD space

To use a small SSD to cache while running it with another SSD will only hurt your performance.
Blasphemy and lies...

I'm running a SSD for Boot and a SSD for cache.

Its the perfect balance when I can have uber fast boot, and select games/programs on pure SSD performance and the other SSD accelerate the HDD ( it doesn't hurt performance because you select what drive you accelerate with the caching.....)
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i use srt and find it to be pretty awsome. i only use my pc for gaming ,surfing and video. the boot time is fast and it also loads my games fast. and when running it in enhanced mode i dont have to worry about ssd failure or power outage. so there is very good things about srt to. i'm using a m4 64 gig ssd with a wd black 1tb hd.
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SRT is beautiful, but I don't see increased boot times and most people shouldn't because the service doesn't start untill you're logged in. I could be wrong though.
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I see you already have an 80gb Intel SSD , was that coming over into the New i5 build ? that would make a GREAT drive for your BOOT/OS drive, and then consider doing something like I did ...
The 80gb is staying with this current system, but my sig rig really has 3 SSD's. I just dont list it all because it wont fit nicely. The 80gb Boot SSD and the 2x40gb Kingston SSDNow (intel controller) drives for games. I was just thinking maybe I could use one of them to make the next build even faster somehow, aside from just being more filespace.
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Blasphemy and lies...

I'm running a SSD for Boot and a SSD for cache.

Its the perfect balance when I can have uber fast boot, and select games/programs on pure SSD performance and the other SSD accelerate the HDD ( it doesn't hurt performance because you select what drive you accelerate with the caching.....)
Hmmm ok. This is what I was hoping to hear. I guess I will be trying this. Thanks.
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best bet with a 80GB is doing the Cache/Boot Drive partition to take advantage of all the space since cache can only use 64 GB, though not sure what happens when you install windows on a partition that doesn't have enough room initially for the pagefile.
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