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I'm going to assume that 95% of you have never worked for an actual company where you had any significant duties. I don't say this to be condescending but you'll remember your first time when you do something and realize it was sent to the customer without being reviewed by your superior. It's the weirdest feeling, wishing you had looked it over one more time, fearing if it could cause some big issue down the road if you were wrong. You get used to it but it helps you realize that your actions are much larger than they seemed when you were only working under someone who would check all your work.

Remember that companies are made of people and that while it is no excuse for misbehavior, you also can't blame an entire company for a single employee's actions (perhaps blame is the wrong word, 'fault' would be better...). This sort of thing is obviously amplified with the Apple/Samsung lawsuits but this could very well have been a single intern who had the task of putting a map image on that phone in an advertising firm. Who knows how far removed they are from Samsung's engineers who are being sued for 'copying' Apple.

My point is there is no reason for so much hate (on both side) for something so insignificant. The news is itching for both companies copying one another and this just gives them a reason to get more traffic to their site. But that's my opinion.
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I never said you did argue that. You said "next" at the end of your explanation, so I gave you another challenge
Read a few posts belows yours.
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crap, wrrong thread.
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I just don't understand why Apple/Samsung keep suing each other over EVERYTHING, yet still doing business with each other. Does half of each company not talk to the other half?

I mean Samsung Foxconn manufactures both the iphone and ipad if I'm not mistaken. Samsung makes the flash memory ram and processor for iphone/ipads, so wth are these guys doing?
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I just find it rather funny that Samsung is just playing with Apple at this point, lol.

In the end it's really a joke of a mishap to stir a big deal of. It's a screenshot of an app not owned by Apple.
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I'm going to assume that 95% of you have never worked for an actual company where you had any significant duties. I don't say this to be condescending but you'll remember your first time when you do something and realize it was sent to the customer without being reviewed by your superior. It's the weirdest feeling, wishing you had looked it over one more time, fearing if it could cause some big issue down the road if you were wrong. You get used to it but it helps you realize that your actions are much larger than they seemed when you were only working under someone who would check all your work.

Remember that companies are made of people and that while it is no excuse for misbehavior, you also can't blame an entire company for a single employee's actions (perhaps blame is the wrong word, 'fault' would be better...). This sort of thing is obviously amplified with the Apple/Samsung lawsuits but this could very well have been a single intern who had the task of putting a map image on that phone in an advertising firm. Who knows how far removed they are from Samsung's engineers who are being sued for 'copying' Apple.

My point is there is no reason for so much hate (on both side) for something so insignificant. The news is itching for both companies copying one another and this just gives them a reason to get more traffic to their site. But that's my opinion.
I'm in the 5% that worked for a corporation, and mine had over 30,000 employees world wide.

In development, a product never went to a customer without:

a) meeting design requirements
b) meeting ISO requirements
c) going through at least 3 peer/committee reviews

I can understand Google's API and its display rendering identically. That's a 3rd party programming object.

But even if it is their own display, I would think their marketing group would not use the same map point. Not a real good idea for advertising.

I would seeing blame being placed with one person, if it had not been a large corp. That had to go through more than one set of eyes.

And, I'm not a hater. I like Apple's products. I can't afford them though. I have a Samsung phone I got for $60 w/no contract. It does what I want.

The thing I have issue with broad patents. I can see not replicating someone's unique typeset, naming venacular, or unique processes. But, some of the patents are so general that they could be applied to more than one thing or cover more than one evolutionary path technologically.

I really wouldn't put it past some large corporation's legal team to try and patent something all encompassing, if they could find a way.

Anyways, I just hope it makes for better products.
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I'm in the 5% that worked for a corporation, and mine had over 30,000 employees world wide.

In development, a product never went to a customer without:

a) meeting design requirements
b) meeting ISO requirements
c) going through at least 3 peer/committee reviews

I can understand Google's API and its display rendering identically. That's a 3rd party programming object.

But even if it is their own display, I would think their marketing group would not use the same map point. Not a real good idea for advertising.

I would seeing blame being placed with one person, if it had not been a large corp. That had to go through more than one set of eyes.

And, I'm not a hater. I like Apple's products. I can't afford them though. I have a Samsung phone I got for $60 w/no contract. It does what I want.

The thing I have issue with broad patents. I can see not replicating someone's unique typeset, naming venacular, or unique processes. But, some of the patents are so general that they could be applied to more than one thing or cover more than one evolutionary path technologically.

I really wouldn't put it past some large corporation's legal team to try and patent something all encompassing, if they could find a way.

Anyways, I just hope it makes for better products.
Oh, I definitely agree with that. I just think it's silly that they are using this instance to fuel the hate and tension between Apple and Samsung. It's a single obscured image on a generic ad that doesn't even really relate. I could see it being a big deal if the ad was for the maps application and it was supposed to be an 'actual' screenshot but for what it is, who really cares? The 'higher ups' who saw this probably didn't even give it a second thought. Oh look, a phone with a map on it. That's nice.
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and let me just say, I'm sure no one looked at that screenshot and said, "gosh I really need this product, the maps interface looks amazing"

It's not like Samsung would gain anything by using that screenshot.

The worst part of it all honestly is that maps on Android is far more robust than on iOS lol.
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For all we know, the screenshot could be straight from Google, and was provided to both Apple and Samsung out of laziness.
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Both Apple and Samsung are mega fail.
I don't think a company that quadruples it's quarterly income estimates can be considered anywhere near the region of "fail". Samsung is fail. Just sayin'.
     
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