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Hey, guys.

While I realize this isn't necessarily the correct forum to post this, we don't have a dedicated "General Build Advice" forum as far as I can tell, so I figured this was probably the most relevant place I could put this. If I messed up, sorry!

So I designed my rig a while back, and have been ordering the parts as money flows in. I'm approaching the point where I'm gonna be more or less unable to change anything around (about to order the mobo and CPU), so I figured I'd just drop by and see if I'm overlooking something serious, or if there are new, better parts out there that I couldn't have known about back when I designed this baby.

So without further ado, here's the core build (dark green items are already purchased, red are still changeable):

Case: HAF-X
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
Mobo: ASUS P8P67 WS-Revolution LGA 1155
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X 16BG (4x4) 1866
Video Card(s): 2-way SLI EVGA GTX 580s w/ 3072 memory
PSU: CORSAIR AX1200
Boot Drive: Crucial M4 64GB SSD
HDD 1: Crucial M4 120GB SSD
HDD 2 (and up): Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 7200RPM
Sound Card: ASUS Xonar Essence STX 7.1-Channel PCI-E x1
Disc Drive: ASUS Black Blu-ray Burner

Just a random question about the OEM ASUS disc drive - since it's OEM, where do I get the drivers and whatnot? Off their website or something?

Accessories/Miscellaneous:

Thermal Paste: ARCTIC COOLING MX-4
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14

I'm also going to fill in all the HAF-X's 'optional' fan slots, since the place I live at is pretty warm on average:

200mm: COOLER MASTER Megaflow
120mm: COOLER MASTER Sickleflow
80mm: COOLER MASTER Nameless Fan

Since I live in a pretty dusty place (carpets, pets, etc...), I've been planning on getting some dust filters for the HAF-X.

Dust Filters: DEMCiflex HAF-X Filters

That about sums it up. Can anybody think of any potential problems/upgrades/advice/etc?

Also note that I'll probably get a second disc drive eventually, and add more HDDs as necessary. That said, should I get a fan controller or something?

Finally, since I've never actually built a computer before, can someone explain what tools I'll be needing, and where I can get them (i.e. a toolkit or something). I mean, I know the basic stuff like a de-static wristband and whatnot, but I have no idea where to get any of it.

Thanks for your time!


Edit: Ah, crap, forgot the monitors.

I'm also trying to decide between these two monitors (though please suggest other ones if you can think of something better):

Monitor Candidate 1: ASUS VE258Q Black 25" 2ms
Monitor Candidate 2: Asus VK278Q Black 27" 1920x1080 2ms
Edited by 13ack.Stab - 10/22/11 at 2:42pm
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I have been building computers and in IT for 15 years, and I have never once used a static wristband. I'm not telling you not to, just saying. Living in the south probably helps, though. Tools depend on the case, but a phillips head screwdriver will get you far.

The Gen3 P8Z68 supports PCI 3.0, so maybe worth considering.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131791

I'd suggest 2 DIMMS over 4. Depending on your usage, 2x4GB is probably plenty.
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Just looked at that case, looks like you will probably need a hex nut driver for the motherboard standoffs, as well, not sure the size.
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Thanks for the info about the tools.

I don't think the video cards I purchased (listed above) can take advantage of the PCI 3.0 technology, considering they use PCI 2.0. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
Edited by 13ack.Stab - 10/19/11 at 8:56am
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CL7 1600 MHz Ram will out perform the CL11 2133 MHz Ram. At higher speeds, Latency is more of a factor than the actual speed. If you really want the best ram you should get CL 6 1600 Mhz.

Basic Ram Calculations:
Quote:
CL6 1600 MHz
6/800 * 1000 = 7.5 ns

CL7 1600 MHz
7/800 * 1000 = 8.75 ns

CL11 2133 MHz
11/1066.5 *1000 = 10.314 ns

In reality you will more than likely not notice any difference between CL9 1600 Ram and CL6 1600 Ram though.. :/

Someone please correct my calculations if they are incorrect
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Oh, geez. RAM timings at whatnot are way beyond me.

I have no idea how to optimize for speed, so I just picked the RAM with the highest clock.

Could I modify the timings through the BIOS or something for the 2133 RAM and make it faster, or should I really consider purchasing a different model?

Thanks!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 13ack.Stab;15368169 
Oh, geez. RAM timings at whatnot are way beyond me.

I have no idea how to optimize for speed, so I just picked the RAM with the highest clock.

Could I modify the timings through the BIOS or something for the 2133 RAM and make it faster, or should I really consider purchasing a different model?

Thanks!

It is really hard to get the timings down and be stable at high clock speeds. Which is why they are so high at stock tongue.gif
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Use MX-4 instead of AS5. AS5 needs time to cure, and needs to be re-applied from time to time.

2x Samsung F3 1TB is cheaper than WD Caviar Black, and faster. You do know that AX1200 is overkill for your setup right? Even 850W (or 900W for some heavy OC) is sufficient for your setup. 1200W is only useful when you are doing 3-way SLI.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trumpet-205;15368735 
Use MX-4 instead of AS5. AS5 needs time to cure, and needs to be re-applied from time to time.

I didn't know this - thanks for the info.

I'll also look into those drives a little bit later.

And yeah, I know that 1200W is overkill right now, but I plan to upgrade to the SilverStone RAVEN RV02B-EW at some point, and I'll go 3-way SLI then, too.

And I've already purchased the PSU, so I'll deal.

Edit: I'll swap out the AS5 for the MX4. I'm not sure how the F3 drives are 'faster' than the caviar black, but they are certainly cheaper. Still undecided.
Edited by 13ack.Stab - 10/19/11 at 2:14pm
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Okay, so I did a little more research on the CAS latencies and whatnot. Most of it went over my head, but I determined that there was little point in going over 1866MHZ.

So, my new RAM selection is the following, which is CL9 (9-10-9-28): G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB 1866

Thoughts?
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