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What is your maximum budget? Flexible, would like to keep it at or below $1,000 if possible.

What country are you in? USA

What will be the uses of this laptop? School, chiefly. Information Security and related courses. Light gaming on the side.

Do you have brand loyalty or care which brands we select for you?
NOT any of the following:
  • Dell
  • HP
  • Sony


Preferred:
  • ASUS
  • Toshiba


What screen size do you require? 15.6

What screen resolution do you require? 1366 x 768 is standard for 15.6, yes?

Are you looking to buy NEW or would refurbished/recertified/used be okay? New

How long should the battery last? (Under optimal conditions, no movies/games/heavy internet) Not picky (within a reasonable range, that is)

What games would you like to play with your laptop? And on what settings?
  • Source games
  • BF3 (whatever it'll run at is fine by me)
  • ME/ME2
  • etc...

Setting not important so long as it's smooth and not reminiscent of 8-bit


What operating system do you need? N/A - will be running Linux and I have a copy of Win 7 Pro laying around for it as well if need be

Is there a certain style of laptop you want? This is a quirk for me - I hate non-centered touch pads. 50% of the time I'd be using a USB/wireless mouse but still, I hate non-centered touch pads - I.E. those that are adjusted to the left of center of the entire frame.

How much hard drive space do you need? 500GB minimum, or ability to have dual HDDs

Do you need any special hardware? HDMI, but I assume that's a given with the below

Is there anything else we need to know? Would like the Intel HD graphics integrated with the Sandy Bridge processors if possible. Not abject to a discrete card, though if need be discrete only nVidia please.


Many thanks, OCN!
    
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Dell XPS 15 is the only decent choice that meets the criteria(due to having a centered touchpad).

So, you're most likely stuck with an off-centered touchpad on a 15.6", or you could get a 14" with centered touchpad. Right now the Lenovo Y470 with Nvidia 550M is about as good as you can do for a 14" gaming laptop.

Sager and MSI seem like the best value for gaming 15" laptops. Toshiba Qosimo are a little overpriced IMO. Same with Asus (540M is about as good as you can get <$1000 for Asus). I'd check at xoticpc.com , couple decent MSI models and there's a Sager NP5165 and 8130.
 
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Toshiba isn't the best bet for this one with that budget. Honestly speaking, I would go with Sager. The NP5165 is the best deal for you good sir.
     
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As said above Sager laptops give great gaming performance at a decent price, while the toshiba qosmio laptops usually cost.

I have also found most modern toshibas to have bad build quality, with lots of plasticky panels that flexed easily.

One well known reseller for sagers is xoticpc.

Another option would be too look into the Asus G series line, they have decent 15" gaming laptops, or the MSI GT68x line.

Also, most touchpads are centered with regards to the keyboard so the touchpad falls under the sapcebar. This just happens to be off-centre overall unfortunately, and I don't think there are any widescreen laptops around that have the touch pad centered on the overall frame

Hope this helps
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Ok, assuming I can adapt to the off-centered touchpad, are there any more specific models that any of you would recommend? I'm checking out xoticpc right now, thanks for the tip!
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Ok, assuming I can adapt to the off-centered touchpad, are there any more specific models that any of you would recommend? I'm checking out xoticpc right now, thanks for the tip!
Sager NP5165 and NP8130. Pros of 5165: Battery life, Nvidia Optimus, lighter weight, a little cheaper.

Pros of 8130: Better graphics by ~40%.

Either laptop is good, but the 5165 will last longer if you need good battery life more than a really fast GPU. From experience I personally hate laptops with GPUs that are always on(ie no Optimus), mostly it just kills battery life (can't game while doing schoolwork ).
 
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As said above Sager laptops give great gaming performance at a decent price, while the toshiba qosmio laptops usually cost.

I have also found most modern toshibas to have bad build quality, with lots of plasticky panels that flexed easily.

One well known reseller for sagers is xoticpc.

Another option would be too look into the Asus G series line, they have decent 15" gaming laptops, or the MSI GT68x line.

Also, most touchpads are centered with regards to the keyboard so the touchpad falls under the sapcebar. This just happens to be off-centre overall unfortunately, and I don't think there are any widescreen laptops around that have the touch pad centered on the overall frame

Hope this helps
My Qosmio has excellent build quality. Equivalent to any other brand really. XoticPC is good if you have a spare OS on hand since you generally need to add an OS to the machine you want to buy. That alone is already a con for me. D:
     
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Sager NP5165 and NP8130. Pros of 5165: Battery life, Nvidia Optimus, lighter weight, a little cheaper.

Pros of 8130: Better graphics by ~40%.

Either laptop is good, but the 5165 will last longer if you need good battery life more than a really fast GPU. From experience I personally hate laptops with GPUs that are always on(ie no Optimus), mostly it just kills battery life (can't game while doing schoolwork ).
Is the 560M really 40% faster than the 555M? I haven't followed mobile GPUs in the longest time.

One thing I do notice is that for $50 less than the 8130, I can still upgrade the 5165 to an i7 2630. Overkill, yes...but come on...
    
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Is the 560M really 40% faster than the 555M? I haven't followed mobile GPUs in the longest time.

One thing I do notice is that for $50 less than the 8130, I can still upgrade the 5165 to an i7 2630. Overkill, yes...but come on...
While I cant vouch for the 40%, I will say go for the best you can afford now, since you cant always upgrade (sagers can) but even if you can the cost of mobile GPUs is usually pretty high

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My Qosmio has excellent build quality. Equivalent to any other brand really. XoticPC is good if you have a spare OS on hand since you generally need to add an OS to the machine you want to buy. That alone is already a con for me. D:
Good to hear yous is going well. My friend had one that was insanely bad quality.

Also, as for the OS at xoticpc, being a student does have some perks lol
MSDNAA FTW , but if not I can see what you mean

OP the models mentioned above are the best to look at, but also check out the Asus G53 (Like the looks of this myself)

Finally there is the MSI GT683D which is more expensive but packs a GTX 570 which is absolute BEAST

Click the names to go straight to the page for each ( but you already knew that ofc lol )

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Is the 560M really 40% faster than the 555M? I haven't followed mobile GPUs in the longest time.

One thing I do notice is that for $50 less than the 8130, I can still upgrade the 5165 to an i7 2630. Overkill, yes...but come on...
Yes, 560M really is that much faster. Check it. http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-...M.41933.0.html But it's completely useless for schoolwork, except for dropping battery life by a couple hours(good excuse to stop working lol). If you want something with a beast GPU and good battery life, you can upgrade next year.

And yes, i7-2630 is a good choice. Doesn't use much more power at idle(load is a different story)
 
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