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The Story:
I have had my i7 970 for almost a year now.
Since day one, I have had it running on my H70,
Since march, I had a custom loop just like in my sig rig.
Currently I am on air using a Corsair A70 until my new parts arrive.
Next week I will be using an EK Supreme HF block with 2ual 120 Rads.

The Issues:
The issue is the temperature fluctuations of my processor.
With all of my different cooling setups and several mounts on each, the temperature spread on the cores were not uniform.
Core #1 was always the hottest and would usually be about 10-15C hotter than the coolest core on idle or load.
Under load, the difference between cores was vast: will post some screenshots.

For whatever reason, even underwater, my prime and IBT/Linx temps would always reach 80C+ and the temperature difference trend would continue with whatever mount I do.
Today I just took my heatsink off to examine the chip, and with a razor blade I checked the flatness of the heatspreader. It seemed very flat to me, so I am wondering why are my temperatures like this.

I updated my bios because i was running the cpu on a very old BIOS that the board didn't support (but it still worked well). Now I am on the latest bios thinking the temps would be fixed, but I think it made them hotter under load...lol.

With my new water cooling parts and better thermal paste arriving (shin etsu), if I don't see a decent drop in temperature or a change with this trend, I don't know what to think.

Did I get a bad chip? I am really inclined to Lap my cpu just to see what sort of temps i might achieve that way, or I might sell it and get a 2600k.

What do you guys think?


Tried my old method of thermal paste application today. Always did this until recently I was using pea or X-method before this.
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Uneven core temperatures is pretty normal for our processors. Here's mine with a H50 for reference:



I don't think that you have anything to worry about.
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If your gonna really consider selling it hit me up
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Well, I don't know how much help I can be, but I can at least tell you that you are not the only person with that sort of temperature difference.
On my i7-990X, cores #1 and 4 run much hotter than the others. I've switched cooling, reaplied thermal paste - none of that makes a difference (unless you do a very poor job of applying thermal paste).
From what I've read, it is normal for some cores to run hotter than the others, but not by the ammout you or I are seeing (core #4 is consistantly 10+ degC hotter than #3). But, apperently there is nothing that can be done about it - it just sucks.
Sorry I can't help lol, but it isn't just you with that issue.

edit: here's a screenshot showing that

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Oh, for the record, I used Shin Etsu X23-7783D with the single dot method.
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Originally Posted by Stormblitz View Post
Tried my old method of thermal paste application today. Always did this until recently I was using pea or X-method before this
For your processsor, the suggested application method is "vertical line" (along with "tinting" the heatsink): http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appm..._line_v1.1.pdf
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@kremtok

Yeah, I know that uneven temperatures are normal, but I think mine seems a little more extreme. I just realized that I had a 19C difference between 2 cores eek.gif Plus, your temps with your H50 were better than my custom water & H70 temps iirc frown.gif

@frogger4

Same as above, and yes, your temps with the Antec kuhler were better than my custom water & H70 iirc


Off topic, what is more accurate, CoreTemp or RealTemp?
    
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What voltage are you using? What are your ambient temperatures? Both could have a greater impact than the speed at which your processor is running, though I agree that you should get better results from a custom watercooling loop. Are your GPU and CPU in the same loop?
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From cpu-z I am at 1.304V. I don't have a thermometer but it feels like 20-22C in my room. Yeah my GPU was in the same loop. I came to the conclusion that I didn't have enough radiator to dissipate the heat with an overclocked 6970. This is why I am upgrading to something better by next week, and will see if there is an impact on the CPU temps. It just doesn't seem normal to me that whatever I throw at it, temps are uneven and skyrocket on load. Leaves me baffled and thinking.
    
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I was concerned with the spread of temps on my i7 970 as well.

I've lapped my processor and all the cooling solutions I've used; I've reflowed the solder TIM under the IHS; I removed the CPU retention mechanism (it was warping the IHS slightly) and have relied on the cooler to hold the CPU in the socket; all to minimal effect.

Some of the differential can be explained by the location of the VRMs (which dump heat into the board and thus make one side of the CPU warmer), but as to the rest of it, I can only conclude that Gulftown is more prone to sensor anomalies. Still, you should always worry about the highest listed temp.

Anyway, don't get rid of that chip. 4.2GHz on 1.3v is quite good for a 970.
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