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Android is not open source.
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1. Buy a cheap Android phone
2. Install this launcher
3. Sell it to iSheep
4.???
5. Profit
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Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post
Android is not open source.
Actually it is.

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Android is an open-source software stack for mobile devices, and a corresponding open-source project led by Google. We created Android in response to our own experiences launching mobile apps. We wanted to make sure that there was no central point of failure, so that no industry player can restrict or control the innovations of any other. That's why we created Android, and made its source code open.
Android is open source, which is why it is up to manufacturers to release Android updates for their own tweaked and tinkered versions of the OS. It is also why there are so much fragmentation. Maybe ICS really will change all that (I doubt it), but I honestly feel like Google is better off putting a hardware requirements list out there and disallow OEM from making changes themselves.
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post #34 of 91
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Android is not open source.
It is as pertaining to the topic for which I said it...

Anyone can use, change, and redistribute the code as they wish.

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/10/is-android-open/

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The Android OS is, in strictly legal terms, open source. Android is released under the Apache 2.0 software license, which allows anyone to use, modify and redistribute the code.
Just because Jobs makes a snide remark during a speech that it's not open, doesn't make it true.

Edit: Beaten by 'Noob by seconds!
     
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Originally Posted by OC'ing Noob View Post
Actually it is.



Android is open source, which is why it is up to manufacturers to release Android updates for their own tweaked and tinkered versions of the OS. It is also why there are so much fragmentation. Maybe ICS really will change all that (I doubt it), but I honestly feel like Google is better off putting a hardware requirements list out there and disallow OEM from making changes themselves.
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It is as pertaining to the topic for which I said it...

Anyone can use, change, and redistribute the code as they wish.

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/10/is-android-open/



Just because Jobs makes a snide remark during a speech that it's not open, doesn't make it true.

Edit: Beaten by 'Noob by seconds!
Who said anything about Jobs?

I'm getting sick and tired of the immature Apple comments. If you're not willing to have a serious conversation, leave and don't come back. I'm not some brain dead moron who takes a man's word for granted nor do I use stupid laws of classification.

Here's an independent report.

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They ranked these projects in an "open governance index" based on the percentage of points that they received. Google's Android mobile operating system ranked the lowest, with only 23 percent. The Eclipse integrated development environment ranked the highest, with 84 percent. Android was the only project in the study that scored less than 58 percent.
People hide behind the stupid 'iSheep' comments yet no Android fan is ever willing to accept that Android is not open source. There are a lot of limitations with Android and it is not fully autonomous irrespective of what you think. A piece of software that scores 23% does not deserve to be classed as open source.
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post #36 of 91
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iPhone can run Android, not iOS. iOS is a an OS platform and when people got it working on an iPhone, it was as a customized Android OS installed onto the iPhone when it had been placed into DFU mode.
People got confused with this because it simply wasn't clear enough.

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Originally Posted by OC'ing Noob View Post
iPhone can run Android, not iOS.
This makes it seem like you're saying the iPhone can't run iOS.

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Originally Posted by OC'ing Noob View Post
iOS is a an OS platform and when people got it working on an iPhone...
Sounds like your saying people had to work to get iOS working on an iPhone. Should have not used the word "it": "iOS is a an OS platform and when people got [Android] working on an iPhone..."


I'm simply pointing out where some people became confused when reading that post. Just a matter of English semantics. No big deal, but I saw you post wondering why people were confused and just wanted to point it out, because when I read your initial post quoted above, it confused the crap out of me at first.

And hopefully/maybe this helps others as well!
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Android is not open source.
How is it not? Releasing the full source code to anyone who desires to put it on any phone at no cost is every definition of open source. ICS's full source code will be up for grabs very soon, handed to us straight from Google. Yes, Honeycomb was a bit more locked down by Google, and that was done with VERY good intention and and valid reasoning.

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Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post
Here's an independent report.

People hide behind the stupid 'iSheep' comments yet no Android fan is ever willing to accept that Android is not open source. There are a lot of limitations with Android and it is not fully autonomous irrespective of what you think. A piece of software that scores 23% does not deserve to be classed as open source.
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Android is least open of open source mobile platforms
If it's the least open source of open source platforms, isn't it open source?

Open SOURCE doesn't mean that the software is 100% OPEN to be annihilated; it does not mean that it doesn't have limitations. It means exactly what the name implies, the SOURCE CODE is free for anyone to get and redistribute as they please without any licensing concerns whatsoever, among other small requirements like "not restricting it from certain people" and whatnot. And Android is exactly that.

http://opensource.org/docs/osd
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 10/20/11 at 8:21am
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I never said you did say anything about Jobs, but that is where the original debat arose that Android was not open source, quit trying to prove superiority by standing on some pedestal, I was not being immature, and I have never used phrases such as 'iSheep". I also wouldn't as if you're happy with your phone I'm happy for you, it's what I believe in, and always have, go back through my post history right now, I dare you...

And the reason Android scores low usually is because they don't take other people changes to the code to be run as the main product. So yes, it's not open in the way of taking consumers changes for the official release

But the fact remains you don't need a license to run Android on your device, which is what the topic was when starting it, so please don't jade that by being overly defensive.

My only statement was someone said that no one has gotten an Android device to run iOS like they've gotten iPhones to run Android. All I did was correct that by saying no one is allowed to run iOS on their phone, it's not that they can't. So please don't act like I attacked anything about Apple or its users, because I did not...

So in return,

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If you're not willing to have a serious conversation, leave and don't come back.
because I never attacked you, you did that all on your own and then reciprocated it back at me.

Edit: And if it did come across that I was trying to say you listen to anythinig Jobs said I appologize, I was not directing that at you. Job's statement was what I believed was one of the first times the whole Open Source debate came into question. I meant it as a more wide spread statement over the whole debate itself as it's not the first time I've heard that said (and henceforth defended because of said statement). Again, was not meant as an "iSheep" attack.

Edit Edit: OT, if there is such a thing anymore. I tried out the launcher last night. It's pretty fluid usage wise. I will say I couldn't figure out how to make a folder though, which really really kills an iOS interface for me. I have to be able to structure my icons in more of a way then all of them just lined up on the screen, might be the engineer in me. I think MIUI is a lot better working wise in that regard. But to this launchers advantage, you still get to keep the Sense UI's other features such as it's camera, gallary, sms, etc. which are all better imo. So this will I'm sure make some people smile while using it!
Edited by Pao - 10/20/11 at 8:22am
     
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blah blah blah.

Installed, looks cool. But i have far to many apps. Time to crete some folders to hide the **** apps i have and never use on my phone
 
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I'm not sure why people wouldnt buy an Android to want iOS.. But oh well, Different people, different opinions.
Maybe they want the hardware of the Android-based phone, but iOS as the OS/theme.
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