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So it has the standard 4-pin Molex connector with power, and then the 3-pin which I thought controlled speed? Plugged it into my fan controller AND motherboard, neither works. Do I need to use the molex fan connector on my motherboard or something? They're loud, which I don't mind but the room mate isn't excited.
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So it has the standard 4-pin Molex connector with power, and then the 3-pin which I thought controlled speed? Plugged it into my fan controller AND motherboard, neither works. Do I need to use the molex fan connector on my motherboard or something? They're loud, which I don't mind but the room mate isn't excited.
try a bay fan controller to see if you can do it that way.
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I think that is two ways of powering the fans.
I converted the 5400rpm fans from a 4 pin molex to a standard 3 pin
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No, the molex has the red and black wire running to the fan to deliver power. The 3 pin connector only runs the yellow to the fan. I've tried my Sunbeam Rheobus and the motherboard connector, neither will turn it up or down.
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No, the molex has the red and black wire running to the fan to deliver power. The 3 pin connector only runs the yellow to the fan. I've tried my Sunbeam Rheobus and the motherboard connector, neither will turn it up or down.
sounds like a bum fan then. The yellow is for the rpm's and if your fan controllers are not working its prob the fan.
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sounds like a bum fan then. The yellow is for the rpm's and if your fan controllers are not working its prob the fan.
its not a bum fan all he has to get is the fan metal clips and put them on the red and black wire
like the one here
http://www.koolertek.com/computer-pa...3-255p2103.htm
reason why they have the molex is so people wont hook up a 3 pin to the mb because it would burn it out
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its not a bum fan all he has to get is the fan metal clips and put them on the red and black wire
like the one here
http://www.koolertek.com/computer-pa...3-255p2103.htm
reason why they have the molex is so people wont hook up a 3 pin to the mb because it would burn it out
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The yellow wire is only to READ the RPM. The black and red wire is where the power is coming from. If you plug your yellow wire into your fan controller, then fan controller won't be able to adjust the amount of power going into the fan which is what changes the speed.
    
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Something isn't right. It's not like the fan can magically run at full speed when you provide it less than 12V. Otherwise you would have some super duper electric motor on your hands that would revolutionize electric motors as we know it... One way or another you aren't lowering the voltage received by the fan. That's the only way it could continually run at full speed. There is no way that the fan could be faulty in a way that causes it to run at full speed on lower voltage.

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+1

The yellow wire is only to READ the RPM. The black and red wire is where the power is coming from. If you plug your yellow wire into your fan controller, then fan controller won't be able to adjust the amount of power going into the fan which is what changes the speed.
This is exactly what is going on. The yellow wire doesn't alter voltage. It only reads speed. The red and black are still providing the voltage from your PSU and adjusting the fan controller doesn't do anything.
    
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Ohhhhh ok, that makes more sense now. Somewhere I have a Molex-3pin converter, I'll have to find it. Always helps when you actually understand what each of the wires does.
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Ohhhhh ok, that makes more sense now. Somewhere I have a Molex-3pin converter, I'll have to find it. Always helps when you actually understand what each of the wires does.
red wire is the 12v positive black is negative going to the molex
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