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Hey guys, got a couple issues here (aside from me being a total noob when it comes to audio). I just bought a Kenwood VR-60RS receiver, two Sylvania floor standing speakers that I am pretty sure have 12" subs, and two other floor standing somethings that I think are 8". I purchased these ALL from my buddy and have personally heard how good they sound. We even set it up quick last night before I took it home and it sounded great. For now, I only have the two Sylvania's hooked up.

I have a 42" Vizio LCD, a PS3 and a Tivo.

I initially set up just the Tivo and regular TV didn't sound too great. Ok, no worries I thought, i stream media from my PS3 anyways. So I hooked up my PS3 (which was a task in itself, but that's not the topic) via Toslink. I have some music on my PS3 HDD that I tried and it sounded very flat and had NO bass. Mind you, nothing changed from the time we had it set up in my buddies house and it sounded excellent, except for the fact that I used optical and he uses regular old RCA (and the source was his PC, but it was onboard audio and not a dedicated card).

What settings should I check so as to get some more bass to these speakers? They will be used mainly for movie/tv watching with little, if any, music.

I should also note that my buddy had somewhat of a ghetto rig in that he had the two 12"s as dedicated subs which were run off another receiver that was connected to the sub port on the amp he sold me. However, we tested with just this receiver and they sounded good.
If I left anything out, let me know. Thanks for the help.
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You need a sub. What are the model numbers of these speakers?
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You need a sub.
No, I don't. Did you read any of my post? Perhaps you missed the part where I said when he had them in his house they produced copious amounts of bass?

Sorry for the sarcasm but I made it quite clear....
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No, I don't. Did you read any of my post? Perhaps you missed the part where I said when he had them in his house they produced copious amounts of bass?

Sorry for the sarcasm but I made it quite clear....
I think the issue is that your receiver isn't sending bass frequencies to them. I don't know the inner working or your receiver's settings but my guess would be to set it up as a 2.0 system. Any X.1 setting is going to make the receiver think you have a sub. The .1 in 5.1 or 7.1 stands for the sub. The receiver will not send bass to the non-sub channels on purpose.

Since you said he had them hooked up as dedicated subs does that mean that the 12'' speakers have different conncetions than the other speakers in the unit? If so I think you are going to need to give them their own amp. The way you described it makes it sound like the dedicated subwoofer receiver he had was receiving just the bass audio from the 1st receiver and amplifying it.
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I think the issue is that your receiver isn't sending bass frequencies to them. I don't know the inner working or your receiver's settings but my guess would be to set it up as a 2.0 system. Any X.1 setting is going to make the receiver think you have a sub. The .1 in 5.1 or 7.1 stands for the sub. The receiver will not send bass to the non-sub channels on purpose.
That's a good point. I'll have to look into that (I'm at work right now though).

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Since you said he had them hooked up as dedicated subs does that mean that the 12'' speakers have different conncetions than the other speakers in the unit? If so I think you are going to need to give them their own amp. The way you described it makes it sound like the dedicated subwoofer receiver he had was receiving just the bass audio from the 1st receiver and amplifying it
They have a sub and 2(?) tweeters with one connection. I'm not sure how it works exactly, but there wasn't any distortion in his setup. Also, we tested it without the second receiver (with them hooked up exactly as I have them, except with RCA connections as opposed to my Toslink) and they sounded good with sufficient bass.
post #6 of 25
Your receiver settings, check them.

Probably cutting off the lower end frequencies going to your towers.
post #7 of 25
There also might be a "Large/Small Speaker" setting that determines what range of frequencies are sent to the speakers.
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Your receiver settings, check them.

Probably cutting off the lower end frequencies going to your towers.
Wow, thanks. If only I knew what settings to check.....
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What settings should I check so as to get some more bass to these speakers?
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Yeah, Most receivers have Bass Management in the form of Large/Small Speaker Selection. Set all your speakers to Large and you should be good.
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They have a sub and 2(?) tweeters with one connection. I'm not sure how it works exactly, but there wasn't any distortion in his setup. Also, we tested it without the second receiver (with them hooked up exactly as I have them, except with RCA connections as opposed to my Toslink) and they sounded good with sufficient bass.
The tweeters should be able to handle the bass frequencies without distorting. They just won't play it very loud at all. If you look at the frequency response of most tweeters they encompass the entire range from ultra low to ultra high frequencies.

Since they are all wired up as one unit I'm am going to make the assumption that those 12'' speakers aren't really subs. They are just large floorstanding speakers. A subwoofer is a speaker specifically optimized for low frequency, not just a big speaker. I've seen 6'' subs before.
    
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