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MSI 560 Ti Hawk - Normal temps?

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Alright, so I upgraded my aging 9800GTX+ to a 560 Ti Hawk. Problem is my temps, which at idle are 50°C @ 37% speed. On default fan profile while running 3D Mark 11 it seems to stabilize at 70-75°C with 60-65% fan speed. So luckily I'm not one of the guys here where the temps hit 100°C.

But still I'm not satisfied, because 65% fan speed is way too loud. But when I lock the fan speed at 50%, which is the threshold for me, temps slowly keep going up and up. Most I got was 82°C when running 3D Mark 11, during the first demo, and it was ever so slowly still on its way up. The following demo and benches were too short or undemanding to break that record.

Whether I leave my case open or not seems to make diddly squat difference. I even mounted a 200mm fan on the side panel as an intake, and then as exhaust. The intake dropped my idle temps with 1°C and that's it. Load was still the same. Exhaust does nothing for idle temps, still 50°C. Haven't checked load yet. The fan in question is one of the stock 600T 200mm fans.

Before you recommend RMA, although I doubt you would seeing as these temps aren't too abnormal I imagine, it's not the card. I ordered two, one for me and one for a friend. I popped his in when I noticed my 50°C idle temps and 70+ loads, but they're exactly the same. And in his own case his card idles at 37°C @ 25% fan speed with roughly the same ambient. So clearly something is wrong with my case airflow or maybe my motherboard can't read temps correctly or whatever.

My ambient temps are between 20 and 25°C. The card is still running on stock voltages. I've already removed the 3.5" hdd bays so as not to impede airflow, but again my temps remained the same as before. Cables have been properly managed as well, there's not a single wire showing from behind the mobo tray that isn't going somewhere into the mobo and even then it's showing as little as possible.

Is there any way I can drop temps so they stabilize in the low seventies without cranking the fans past 50% speed? I'm planning on buying 4 Scythe GT-AP14s and a CM Megaflow to replace the stock ones. 3 GT as exhaust (one back, two top) and one GT as intake in the 5.25 bays and then the Megaflow as front 200mm intake.

Would that work? Seeing as with the side panel off the temps don't seem to drop, not even with a 200mm fan blowing into it, albeit not too fast because I really do hate noise I'd imagine it isn't airflow that's the problem. But at the same time it has to be, because the exact same card in another case has "normal" temps, the ones you see in the reviews and what not.

Anyone with the same case as me who was able to drop GPU temps with better case fans or something?
Edited by Cid - 10/19/11 at 5:01pm
post #2 of 10
You can underclock your cards, back to reference card speeds, 820Mhz/2000Mhz. If you want your cards to run cooler, you're going to have to change something. Ambient temps, case airflow, or fanspeed on the card. Possibly all 3. Your rig may not be "whisper silent". Those fans are on the card for a reason, and you might have to sacrafice a bit of noise for high performance action. I have the fan profile set to 70% at 60c, 79% at 65c, and up steeply from there. It IS a bit on the loud side, but the cards never see 67c or higher.
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Good lord how you can stand 70% fan speed is beyond me. At 60% it sounds like a tiny vacuum cleaner.

And yeah, 't is as I feared. Well, I'll be ordering the fans then, and if that doesn't help I'll slap on an Accelero Xtreme Plus (I or II? Do they even fit a non-reference design 560 ti?).
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I was in the exact same situation like you, but I even reached temps of 80° in no-time, and on auto-fan (in "silence" mode, lol, msi was being cynical), the fan reached 80%. It was so frikking loud, couldn't bear with it so I returned it.

I can't suggest this card to anyone, it just stinks.

A msi gtx 560 ti twin frozr II/OC is so much more silent and cooler, even @ the same speeds as a 560 ti hawk
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I see you've slapped the Accelero on the 560 Ti regardless though? How are you finding it? Cool 'n quiet?
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oops, I forgot to update in user control panel, i'm having a gtx 580 right now with the accelero extreme plus II.

well, temps don't break 67° while being OC'ed @ 920/2100/1.1V and it's completely inaudible, even @ 70° fan speed. Best gpu cooler ever if you ask me, more silent and better performing than any other gpu fan i've had.

I don't think any arctic vga cooler fits the 560ti hawk, since it's non-reference. If you still can, i'd return it.
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In theory the AXP II should fit, assuming the four holes surrounding the gpu are the same as reference seeing as that's apparently all that's used to attach it, and it *looks* as though they are the same size and use the same spacing. But Christ Almighty there's not a single soul that's apparently ever wondered as much according to Google.

And RMA-ing isn't really worth it, considering the price of shipping something securely enough to satisfy the RMA dudes, the price of a TFII/OC only being €10 less than the Hawk and the fact that in our fair nation there's exactly ****-all choice when it comes to videocards so I'm pretty much stuck with MSI or ASUS meaning I'd still need an AXP II to satisfy my needs.

Also, with my luck the TFII I'd buy would barely hold 900Mhz. I'm quite satisfied with my Hawk in that regard, 1000/2000/2200 on stock volts (whatever those may be, Afterburner refuses to give me a numerical value, only + and - offsets).

I'll keep trying to find confirmation if the AXP II fits or not. If it doesn't, I'll have to ride out the noise until AMD gets off its behind and releases the 79xx series and see what AC will have for those. And it will be a reference design I buy then, or a non-ref where I know beforehand whatever AC has will fit. Also the last time I trust reviews to tell me whether a card is loud or not.
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the 560ti twin frozr II will easily go to 900, hell, even 1000 on the core wouldn't be an exception. It's a great card, I used to have it after the hawk.

I totally recognize your situation, and I was so glad I got rid of that loud monster!
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In theory the AXP II should fit, assuming the four holes surrounding the gpu are the same as reference seeing as that's apparently all that's used to attach it, and it *looks* as though they are the same size and use the same spacing. But Christ Almighty there's not a single soul that's apparently ever wondered as much according to Google.

And RMA-ing isn't really worth it, considering the price of shipping something securely enough to satisfy the RMA dudes, the price of a TFII/OC only being €10 less than the Hawk and the fact that in our fair nation there's exactly ****-all choice when it comes to videocards so I'm pretty much stuck with MSI or ASUS meaning I'd still need an AXP II to satisfy my needs.

Also, with my luck the TFII I'd buy would barely hold 900Mhz. I'm quite satisfied with my Hawk in that regard, 1000/2000/2200 on stock volts (whatever those may be, Afterburner refuses to give me a numerical value, only + and - offsets).

I'll keep trying to find confirmation if the AXP II fits or not. If it doesn't, I'll have to ride out the noise until AMD gets off its behind and releases the 79xx series and see what AC will have for those. And it will be a reference design I buy then, or a non-ref where I know beforehand whatever AC has will fit. Also the last time I trust reviews to tell me whether a card is loud or not.
i have exactly the same problem - read the great review on Guru3d and decided that's the card i wanted. Well within 10 minutes of BC2 i knew something was wrong - the whine is quite bad. I've tried everything in Afterburner - the noise does bother me - even though i'm wearing headphones (turtle beach X41). I think the forums with genuine users are the safest review places to rely on........

i'm even propping cushions around my case to try to drop the noise......i'm not sure what's next - if i can't rma or return it i might try to take the thing apart and apply some fresh TIM (2 hell with the warranty - i hate this card- don't care if i destroy it - will give me a good excuse to get a better one) to see if it helps......
post #10 of 10
Hey, Cid Sorry that you are not happy with the Card. I have the same card and run about 75C at load. I do notice the sound but I thought it to be medium on noise levels. This was my 1st build so I did not really have any reference to go by as to what was acceptable noise levels during load.

As far as temp go I have never went over 75C playing witcher 2 or metro 2033. Good luck with the retrofit. Let us know if it help and if the install was easy on the AXPII.
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