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So, over in the WC section I'm getting some help with my build, when we get onto fans.

I state I'm using Noctua NF-P12's for pretty much all my fans since they are gorgeous and silent and well made, etc., and have glowing reviews in all corners of the web.

Then this happens:
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Originally Posted by andrewmchugh View Post
Not too sure on noctua fans, they might be silient but ive heard that they suck on rads -low static pressure.
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Originally Posted by GingerJohn View Post
One last thing, those NF-P12s that you have picked are actually very poor on rads. I would swith them for something like Yate Loons, or if silence is important Scythe GTs.

So, I reply:

Uh, what? Really?

"...the Noctura NF-P12 fan is, as advertised, incredibly effective when used in applications that require high static pressure."

Source

And there's many more that claim the same...

I thought they were supposed to be awesome for this? Especially on a <8 FPI rad like mine... I've researched fans for days and I didn't come across a single instance of someone reporting with evidence that they were bad on rads. Of course, this comes after I pay my $45 for them. AAAAAAAAARGH



Which is basically where I'm at. I can't find anything online suggesting this. Anyone have any stories/reviews explaining to me how a fan rated as a great high-CFMer (considering it comes in below 20 decibels full tilt) for high-impedance applications is actually crap? Makes NO sense to me.

I reaaaaaally don't want to have to buy more bloody fans.
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Don't worry about it. "Gorgeous and silent and well made" are more than valid reasons for countering claims of lacking performance that may or may not be at all accurate.
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I find that people who say things like that about Noctua's more often than not don't own them and have never tried them.

I had two P12's in push pull on my H70 and after reading about how good the Sythe GT's were I bought 2 of those and replced my P12's...Temp results were exactly the same...I later replaced those with some Akasa Vipers because I wanted the PWM control...Again, temps are the same.

Ambient temp and position of the radiator are by far the most important factors in what gives you good temps, Not really what type of fan as they only move that ambient air around imo.

I can say that after trying a fair few fans in my time that the GT's and the Vipers seam to move the most air, And the P12's and the GT's can be the quietest at low speed and high speed.

Betters choice
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Thanks guys. It's pretty true, not many people opt for the Noctuas when the cheap black plastic Asian offerings get so much more press, especially when they perform well.

I'm going to stick with them for sure, my layout is as heat-efficient as it can get given my components so I'm going to stop worrying.

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Don't worry about it. "Gorgeous and silent and well made" are more than valid reasons for countering claims of lacking performance that may or may not be at all accurate.
Ain't that the truth
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Your right man, the difference between Noctua's and cheap ass bendy black plastic crap is chalk and cheese.

I'd buy more Noctua's in a heart beat after owning the P12's and I still own the P14's....Sprayed them black too so they look badass stealthy lol

Stick with what you've got cos I imagine you'll be dissapointed buying more fans on other peoples recommendations and finding they're every bit as ****e as you thought they would be.
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More on reviews that you find online than your fans (and from credible sources) compared to "Joe OCN member". Take a look at how many online reviews you find about the Corsair HX 1000 that list it as "flawless", "the definition of perfection" and then read what Joe OCN has to say. I am sure I could post 10 reviews of the HX 1000 (and from today) that call it flawless.
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