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I bought a HP computer a while back for around 600 bucks. I upgraded the case, and put in a new power supply and graphics card and it runs great. For x-mas I want to get the AMD FX-8150. The possessor in my PC now is the Phenom II x4 840T which is most likely an AM3 socket. I am still using the stock motherboard that was in the original HP PC. Now my question is, with my motherboard having the same socket as the CPU, can I upgrade to this new CPU without having to get a new motherboard? Will this motherg.phpboard limit my capabilities with my new CPU? Thanx all
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why on earth did you buy a prebuilt computer? more than likely you wont be able to use that 8150 with that mobo. itll require an update to the bios which HP probably wont release in the first place. they arent too big on upgrades.
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Bulldozer only works in AM3+..
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Originally Posted by meedo;15375485 
I bought a HP computer a while back for around 600 bucks. I upgraded the case, and put in a new power supply and graphics card and it runs great. For x-mas I want to get the AMD FX-8150. The possessor in my PC now is the Phenom II x4 840T which is most likely an AM3 socket. I am still using the stock motherboard that was in the original HP PC. Now my question is, with my motherboard having the same socket as the CPU, can I upgrade to this new CPU without having to get a new motherboard? Will this motherg.phpboard limit my capabilities with my new CPU? Thanx all

It will most likely not support it. What specific model did you get, most of the HP prebuilts I have seen still use the 785 chipset and I highly doubt HP would come out with a BIOS update to support any AM3+ CPUs (if 785 can even support it)
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Good luck with that...if past experience is any indication HP uses really ***** motherboards that are just good enough to support the CPU they're paired with. AM3 boards need BIOS updates to run AM3+ chips, and if HP releases a BIOS update (a big if) adding Bulldozer support is probably not high on their list of priorities.
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Originally Posted by meedo;15375485 
I bought a HP computer a while back for around 600 bucks. I upgraded the case, and put in a new power supply and graphics card and it runs great. For x-mas I want to get the AMD FX-8150. The possessor in my PC now is the Phenom II x4 840T which is most likely an AM3 socket. I am still using the stock motherboard that was in the original HP PC. Now my question is, with my motherboard having the same socket as the CPU, can I upgrade to this new CPU without having to get a new motherboard? Will this motherg.phpboard limit my capabilities with my new CPU? Thanx all

The board you have is an AM3 socket but know that a 8150 is an AM3+ socket. It's been said a few AM3 boards will support the 8150 and other AM3+ chips with a BIOS upgrade.
Physically the 8150 will drop right in but won't be useable with your system as is.
In the case of a few AM3 boards it's been said that a BIOS update will let it work but I can't comfirm that, it will take someone who's already done it and has a 8150 or similar AM3+ chip working with it to confirm it. I'd stick with your present chip & board or simply get an AM3+ board along with a 8150 to know it's gonna work either way.
BTW the chip you have (Phenom II x4 840T) is actually a Thuban chip with two cores locked. With a good AM3/AM3+ board it's possible to unlock those cores and have a six core Thuban - Note I said possible, not guaranteed since unlocking cores is a crapshoot.
Some will some won't unlock but doesn't hurt to try it. If you do and it works, you got one or two free cores applaud.gif but if it doesn't boot at all, simply clear CMOS and redo your BIOS settings to recover.
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Originally Posted by kz26;15375633 
Good luck with that...if past experience is any indication HP uses really ***** motherboards that are just good enough to support the CPU they're paired with. AM3 boards need BIOS updates to run AM3+ chips, and if HP releases a BIOS update (a big if) adding Bulldozer support is probably not high on their list of priorities.

My last so called "HP Elite" wasn't really able to support the 1090T it came with. Honestly, if you are going to spend the money on bulldozer, I would also just spend some money on a decent AM3+ board. There are some decent 'cheaper' boards out there with the 9xx chipset (specifically desinged to be paired with a FX processor).

Video on ASUS 9xx boards:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT7YSsEFqTk&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

Then you can spend a little money later and turn that HP into a HTPC or Home Server.
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