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It will benefits a lot for travelling. SSD uses less power than physical drives and offer better protection. You can shake your laptop however you wanted. You won't get data corruptions.

SSDs are big advantage on notebooks.

Not just about gaming. It works well for production environment, video editing, recording. You know it takes up per GB to load video, transfers...
I know about the benefits of the technology, I was responding to the other guys post about putting large, space-consuming games on the SSD.
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I know about the benefits of the technology, I was responding to the other guys post about putting large, space-consuming games on the SSD.
True as for now due to the price tag. But who knows about the future. Physical HDD will be like Floppy Disk one day.
 
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In another word, you're saying a 60GB SSD is sufficient enough for Windows OS to boot and the rest can be run off from physical HDD?

That may be true but not for... media production, especially working with graphic and videos.


edited... you can ignore my comment. I just realized you're talking about something else.
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If only the failure rates & prices come down this will be worth a look.

otherwise SSD's are still a distant dream.
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Putting games on an SSD is about as logical as taking an airplane to work everyday. I've said it time and time again, games do not benefit from SSD's bread and butter (IO performance, random read/write, latency). RAID0 is much cheaper if you "need" to load games quicker, as they only benefit from high sequential reads...You'd be much better off getting a <128gb drive for your OS + applications and then having a 1-2tb for all of your other media + games.

And you're wrong about the 10% free. The spare area varies from controller to controller and that area is disabled at the firmware level, so Windows will never see the full amount.
You're definitely confused on who's wrong here. MMOs especially benefit from SSDs with their stream loading environments. They read lots of data in small chunks. It's not like SSDs have poor sequential reads either. That's on of the first things they market.



You still have to leave space free on an SSD unless you want decreased performance. Have fun filling your SSD up though if you want.
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Hell, if you need more than 128gb of space you're doing it wrong.

Very good price, NAND is going down drastically. In the past 16 months we've seen a ~60% drop in price (the micron c300 had an msrp in 04/2010 of $499 for 128gb which = $3/gb).

And remember the the X-25m back when it debuted 3 years ago? It was $599 for 80gb ($7/gb).
Exactly, and because I'm willing to shell out ~$300 for an SSD, I'm actually considering getting 120GB Vertex Plus (Indilinx controller) RAID0 because it's so damn cheap for the size and I know I won't notice the difference between it and a Sandforce.

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This isn't 2002 bro. Games are typically 15-20GB now. BF3, TOR, Witcher 2, Adobe Suite, etc. You can't use up the entire drive either. You need to leave at least 10% free.
None of those games benefit greatly from an SSD.

WoW, The Sims 3, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas and Skyrim are the only games to benefit greatly from an SSD, hell, even those can run without one. (I'm running a texture pack on FO3 that recommends an SSD, but running on a drive separate from my OS makes it run fine, but mind you the guy also recommended over 4GB RAM, SLI/CFX and a OCed i5/i7, yet I never drop below 30fps with my single 470 and E6700)

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In my case, a 120gb drive is far from enough unfortunately. I am able to have Windows (or linux) and 5 or 6 of my top used applications and ONE GAME in 120gb. And thats with moving the default storage location of program files, and user folders to a secondary drive. Granted I could probably get by with 240gb...

Also, what about small laptops? Something M11X like perhaps? (if it didn't have that godforsaken hinge it would have been my perfect laptop) In that situation you only have space for 1 2.5" drive, you could go with something like the momentus where you get 10krpm performance at 7.2k battery usage. But even then you only get 500gb (I know - Why you no external hard drive?!) But 1tb in a single 2.5" bay in a laptop could be money (Although right now it literally is)
Then you're not using an average scenario, which I was referring to. (I should have made that clear)

For the record, I have ~8GB of programs and ~750GB of games, out of those games...ehh, ~120GB of them would benefit from the SSD. If that, I could install half of them on a separate drive and benefit just as much, but the programs would love the SSD.
    
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Its great to clarify for people if you need SSD or not in some situation due to the price tags vs physical HDD price tags.

When we look forward in 2015+, I guess we only see more SSD than HDD and prices will eventually be the price of HDD.

HDD will be become like DVD in some cases. Don't we now all use USB 64GB flash driver? Even some 256GB USB Stick now? =P

All I'm saying it make senses to contradict some points here now but in the future it is all pointless since SSD will be the standard of all.
 
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Do want!

SSDs are catching up to mechanical drive sizes rather quickly, now they just need to solve the reliability issue.
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You're definitely confused on who's wrong here. MMOs especially benefit from SSDs with their stream loading environments. They read lots of data in small chunks. It's not like SSDs have poor sequential reads either. That's on of the first things they market.


You still have to leave space free on an SSD unless you want decreased performance. Have fun filling your SSD up though if you want.
Okay, WoW may or may not benefit from higher random access speeds. Do you really think the average person needs a bigger SSD to accommodate the shortcomings of a single game? A <100gb ssd + 1-2tb hard drive or RAID is more than sufficient for most gamers, let alone most people looking for a speed improvement. And I'd like to see stats on WoW's random access needs.

Not sure why you posted that benchmark, what exactly is it suppose to show me?

Regarding the free space nonissue: it depends on the amount of spare area set aside for swap space as well as write amplification, but performance is not noticeably different as the drive fills. Read performance will be 100% unaffected if your drive is full to the brim. Write performance may decline, but again, it depends on how much spare area you have. And with trim and GC, it makes filled drives even more of a non-issue. Don't spread misinformation by claiming you have to leave SSD's with x% of free space.

I just checked my 128gb C300 and I had 4.5gb left. HD Tune gave me an average of 330mb/s. After I cleared out 6 gigs more, the speeds were exactly the same.
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