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performance or lack there of is negligable. again, people will see a 8 core FX @ 3.6ghz for $280 and a 4 core SB @ 3.4ghz for $315 and imediately assume that the 8 core is better (not refering to the OCN public of course). on paper its not contest, and most casual consumers wouldnt know the difference or limitations of what they buy, and god knows that the employees at the store working for commission are just going to leach on the consumers ignorance until they sell out of the FX series again. 8150s at newegg are sold out, without expected arrival. 8120s are sold out with "sold out" highlighted in red, you cant even get "auto notify." tiger direct has them listed as "in stock" but take aproximately 30-40 days to ship, hmmm. seems like theyre selling fine to me, and also appears that tigerdirect is selling them strait from manufacturer to the consumer. i havnt seen a SB CPU sold out in a very long time. AMD is, as much as it pains alot of enthusiasts to admit, stealing sales from intel rite now. we are a very "VERY" small percentage of sales, and seeing as we are the enthusiast, our setups last much longer than the typical budget gaming/folding/every day rig. The average consumer, who has a home built PC(whatever its purpose), will see a 8150/8120 and look at their 955 BE and think "wow, that would be a massive improvement." you think that the sales rep at microcenter is going to tell the individual with a 955 BE that the 8150 isnt a worthwile upgrade? theres also those, devoted to a party/cause, that will buy an 8150 just to say they have it in their 990x rig, regardless of the performance.

the biggest dissapointment in this for me is that i may switch my secondary rig over to sandy bridge, considering i was going to upgrade it to a couple of 7*** series. seeing the 8150 bottleneck a single GTX580 dosnt leave me with much hope for a couple of 7s in Xfire.
    
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Maybe they can optimize BD for current applications and games. Right now this CPU is fives years before it's time.
it may be before its time, but it took several years to get it where it is now. and the per core performance is still quite disgraceful. there is no excuse for it to bottleneck a single GTX 580. several of the phenom II BE still put it to shame on the price to performance level, and still bench higher if not the same in most cases.

in five years we may be on nvidia GTX 800s/Radeon HD 9*** series GPUs, i dont expect the performance of the "much anticipated" Bulldozer to improve much more than 10-15% in which case it will still be a bottleneck(it isnt wine, its technology). as AMD themselves put it, Piledriver will have as much as 15% performance increase over Bulldozer, and so on and so on. where as Intel is saying, from SB to IB, 50% less power draw(shouldve said something about that with BD) with the same performance as sandy bridge, or the same power draw with as much as 37% higher performance. thats something to look forward to, not 10-15% year to year. how can their CPUs expect to keep up with discreet graphics?
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I'm happy with my QX6850 @ stock it's great!!!
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Aww who deleted my piledriver joke pic? It was just a joke, sheesh.
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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post
I don't know what is more baffling. The performance of Bulldozer or the amount of people on the Internet who don't know what an actual bulldozer is. They have a payloader for a pic.
Haha I do ! just look at my display pic ! lol
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of course amd will be 'fine'.

bulldozer is perfectly fit for server market. and that is a huge market that buys a lot of top tier, expensive chips.

cores, number operations are everything in server business. and bulldozer is both of those. the fact that bulldozer was first released to server market instead of desktops (i bet a lot of you didnt know that did you) should give you major hint.

you can bet your ass that intel is going to lose dear money in server market.
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wow. newegg is really sold out on bulldozers btw.
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according to fandroids, the higher the cpu clock and the more cores the better?
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