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I think Nokia should drop windows mobile and push Meego instead, they have the resources to do so, reading through this sounds like it can be an amazing OS just need a company backing it properly and putting more development into it

I rate if they did, you'd see other companies using it too, possible ending with android and meego going head to head, would make for an awesome range of phones and amazing developments
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I really hate how the Lumia has got half the hardware features, 512mb ran, no nfc, no front facing camera no pentaband no 802.11 a, lower resolution screen. If they just got the N9 and threw Windows phone 7.5 on there I would be lining up. But now the choice is a lot harder.
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I really hate how the Lumia has got half the hardware features, 512mb ran, no nfc, no front facing camera no pentaband no 802.11 a, lower resolution screen. If they just got the N9 and threw Windows phone 7.5 on there I would be lining up. But now the choice is a lot harder.
Well, you can blame Microsoft's hardware specifications for that shortcoming. I'm sure Meego would run just as well on those specs over what's in the N9. I agree that Meego could definitely be a success, and that they should have released more Maemo devices to get a larger audience for Meego, and go on from there.
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Well, you can blame Microsoft's hardware specifications for that shortcoming. I'm sure Meego would run just as well on those specs over what's in the N9. I agree that Meego could definitely be a success, and that they should have released more Maemo devices to get a larger audience for Meego, and go on from there.
Having to spec phones worse than the competition because the OS is restrictive isn't good business. Meego would run better and worse with those specs. The WP7 processor would be faster and the GPU about equal, but the RAM would stop multitasking in its tracks. That extra RAM is a huge part of what makes Meego able to have a fluid multitasking.

All of the other features are mostly the bells and whistles that make a phone great. The only thing to dislike about the n9 is that CDMA isn't supported, so no Verizon.
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Having to spec phones worse than the competition because the OS is restrictive isn't good business. Meego would run better and worse with those specs. The WP7 processor would be faster and the GPU about equal, but the RAM would stop multitasking in its tracks. That extra RAM is a huge part of what makes Meego able to have a fluid multitasking.

All of the other features are mostly the bells and whistles that make a phone great. The only thing to dislike about the n9 is that CDMA isn't supported, so no Verizon.
I don't see how hardware specs are restricted by the OS. That is purely just Microsoft's decision to balance certain specs across devices running the OS, perhaps in order to make their phones that much more affordable.

I think you are overqualifying the available RAM. I have no doubt that having that amount available to run applications is going to make multi-tasking very viable, but the fact is that Meego is a Linux-based OS, and is most likely not that resource intensive to begin with. The N900 did very well in the multi-tasking area with only 256mb of RAM, not even calculating the amount subtracted for OS use.
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In the Engadget liveblog of the Nokia event today, Elop said that the n9 had the highest pre-orders ever in Russia. There is demand. With the Lumia 800 having the n9 design (sans a bunch of features such as front camera, less ram, smaller screen, not pentaband, no NFC, less standby time, no Meego, etc) the only reason to buy a WP7 phone from Nokia is that the buyer actually likes WP7 better or perhaps because the windows version is cheaper (despite Nokia paying $15 to MS per device) because it lacks the features of the n9.

edit: I thought Nokia would add some customizations to WP7, but it turns out that WP7 is basically the same for Nokia as anyone else except for two little applications (the driving app that the n9 uses and a music app--as though Zune needed replacement). This means that Nokia is just as bad off as Elop claimed they would be if they switched to Android. HTC has more customizations than Nokia with the Sense app alone.

Nokia also promises support for the N9 until 2015, far longer than the n9 target audience is likely to have the device. As for apps, Symbian apps are easily ported and there is a Meego is the first OS that alienDalvik is working on porting to giving the n9 Android apps as well.
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I think Nokia should drop windows mobile and push Meego instead, they have the resources to do so, reading through this sounds like it can be an amazing OS just need a company backing it properly and putting more development into it

I rate if they did, you'd see other companies using it too, possible ending with android and meego going head to head, would make for an awesome range of phones and amazing developments
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Well, you can blame Microsoft's hardware specifications for that shortcoming. I'm sure Meego would run just as well on those specs over what's in the N9. I agree that Meego could definitely be a success, and that they should have released more Maemo devices to get a larger audience for Meego, and go on from there.
Agreed. MeeGo really could have been a success if they pushed it across their products globally. If they advertised it as "the next generation Symbian".

I'm tempted to get a N9, just because of how good it looks. It would probably be a pretty secure smartphone too. Security through obscurity.
    
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Well, you can blame Microsoft's hardware specifications for that shortcoming. I'm sure Meego would run just as well on those specs over what's in the N9. I agree that Meego could definitely be a success, and that they should have released more Maemo devices to get a larger audience for Meego, and go on from there.
I wouldnt hesitate to pick up the N9 if meego was not in jeopardy of being canned. I don't want to be left with a unsupported device.
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I wouldnt hesitate to pick up the N9 if meego was not in jeopardy of being canned. I don't want to be left with a unsupported device.
Nokia is going to support it through 2015. The only downside is less apps. But if you don't care about apps, there's no downside.
    
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I wouldnt hesitate to pick up the N9 if meego was not in jeopardy of being canned. I don't want to be left with a unsupported device.
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Nokia is going to support it through 2015. The only downside is less apps. But if you don't care about apps, there's no downside.
It will have a decent base of developer support, either way. Alien Dalvik is also being ported, so you might have access to the whole Android library, anyway. I see no real cons except for the cost, if you're going for the unlocked version, and probably needing to cut down your SIM card, as it only accepts micro SIMs.
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It will have a decent base of developer support, either way. Alien Dalvik is also being ported, so you might have access to the whole Android library, anyway. I see no real cons except for the cost, if you're going for the unlocked version, and probably needing to cut down your SIM card, as it only accepts micro SIMs.
Id be coming from a iPhone 4 so Microsim is not an issue. But yes I do like apps, I download them a lot so perhaps its better to go with the lumia 800.
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