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Why the hell would they improve the durability? Apple doesn't believe in customer satisfaction. Improving it would mean they are being innovative, and innovation is un-American.
Jobs was saving it for next year so he could fix it and be named revolutionary of the decade because of his monumental achievement of making a drop resistant iPhone.

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There was no Apple Xerox "fiasco", if you even know what fiasco means. Here's an example of what the word fiasco means: Samsung losing all court battles around the globe against Apple.

If you have a inferior product no amount of marketing will make a product sell like hotcakes.

Just like how you make inferior arguments, no amount of delusional fact will get your point through.

It's OK, iPhone wasn't made for everyone there will always be the small minority who refuse to fit in, that's what Android is for.

Just for the record, I use a Motorola Droid X on the Verizon network. The only Apple product I own is a iPod and I use it in my car because all modern cars have integrated iPod connectivity.

I wonder what happened to all the other mp3 players, oh that's right.
The other mp3 players are still there but everyone bought into the iPod, most importantly home, portable and car stereo makers like how you mentioned above. Had stereo makers remained unbiased and simply had a generic USB port, chances are the iPod wouldn't be nearly as dominant as it is now.
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It's OK, iPhone wasn't made for everyone there will always be the small minority who refuse to fit in, that's what Android is for.
You do realize that using the term small minority when discussing a platform that has more users is silly right?
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If you have a inferior product no amount of marketing will make a product sell like hotcakes.
So then why is the Iphone so popular? Every time I use my Iphone I wish it was an android.

Most of us around here know that Apple products are mostly for those who want something shiny, basic and easy to use. Except for those few who need a mac for Audio/Video work.

And before you say I am jumping on the bash Apple bandwagon I happen to own a 2011 Macbook Pro, a Windows laptop and an Iphone 3GS.
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Originally Posted by FuNkDrSpOt View Post
The other mp3 players are still there but everyone bought into the iPod, most importantly home, portable and car stereo makers like how you mentioned above. Had stereo makers remained unbiased and simply had a generic USB port, chances are the iPod wouldn't be nearly as dominant as it is now.
No, I would say that's backwards. Car makers did not "push" the iPhone agenda; they were respondng to customer demand. The iPod had already completely dominated the MP3 market, so making a car as iPod compatible as possible was actually a good selling point for them. (And many cars do simply have an audio jack instead of an iPod connector, too.)

The reason the iPod dominated the MP3 market were largely the same reasons I laid out for the iPhone turning the mobile phone market on its ear:
  • First, the design was wonderful (I still love the click-wheel) and kept getting better with every form factor revision.
  • Second, the seamless integration with iTunes is the "everything just works" mantra of Apple. Is iTunes bloated? Sure. Most people don't care though, because you plug the iPod in and *boom* everything just auto-synchs perfectly. The whole "I prefer to drag-and-drop manually" argument seemed like prehistoric luddite nonsense after I switched to iPods.
  • Finally, and most importantly, it was (again) the online store that really made things take off. People didn't have to buy crap CDs and rip them for one or two songs, they could just buy individual tracks and immediately have them on their iPod. Is this innovative? Maybe not, since that's how the music business worked in the 1950s and 60s too! But it definitely upended the modern music business model because everyone...everyone...jumped on board.
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You do realize that using the term small minority when discussing a platform that has more users is silly right?
Agree. Android users certainly outnumber iPhone users, that is well documented. However, so single Android phone ouotnumbers any single iPhone model, to the best of my knowledge. I've always felt it was a bit disingenuous to lump all Android makes and models into one artificial competitor to iPhone...at least back out any handset that has been significantly modified from the "base" Android feature set, e.g. that MotoBlur stuff...

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So then why is the Iphone so popular? Every time I use my Iphone I wish it was an android.

Most of us around here know that Apple products are mostly for those who want something shiny, basic and easy to use. Except for those few who need a mac for Audio/Video work.
iPhone is popular for the reasons I have previously documented: it "just works", its design is very nice, and its customer satisfaction rate is through the roof (which means that almost everyone who has an iPhone intends to buy another one, not switch).

So if all that is true, why does Android outsell iOS in total? Three reasons, I think: 1) The "techie" segment that prefers complete control over ease of use; 2) There are a lot more choices of models, and not everyone wants the Apple vision or simply resists being herded into a choice they want to make for themselves; and 3) probably because of #2, there are less expensive handsets available. I have said many times in discussions about other products (beginning with VHS vs. Beta), price always trumps quality with Average Joe.

So all in all, I think we actually have a very healthy handset market. When we get into the flame wars over why iOS sucks turds or Android is a rancid herpes sore, it just makes us look ridiculous. There are great products out there for every possible customer segment, and that's a good thing. This "Mine is better than yours" stuff is silly. (And I hate when I see myself fall into the trap of participating...consider this a mea culpa if I've been doing that over the past day or so.)
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post #136 of 155
Droids never break.

Iphones shatter like fragile glass. Hahaha
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Originally Posted by trulsrohk View Post
A case/protectors should not be a requirement imho.

And obviously for many owners they are not.
If you have a good design, you don't need one.

Case in point, the SGSII. I've dropped mine a few times on concrete and bricks, not a single scratch...

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I wouldn't use any $500+ device without a case, period. I think it's stupid for anyone not to. Protect your investment!
Good design negates the "need" for a case.

Even my HTC Dream only got damaged when I walked it into a pool and started not really caring about it after it started going haywire then, or throwing it around on purpose.

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Originally Posted by Setzer View Post
Or just take care of your investments?

This test is pretty dumb, the iPhone weighs more = more mass.
And you know the saying: "The bigger they are, the harder they fall"
It's not even that, Apple used glass for two entire surfaces and didn't cover it up on the corners, so if it hits brick on a corner it'll shatter.

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Originally Posted by steelbom View Post
It's not about quality rather design. Apple chooses a better feel and aesthetic look over a more hardier design, some prefer that and some don't.

I don't use a case, but I also make sure I don't drop my phone. I'm considering getting AppleCare w/ accidental insurance just in case.
A "better feel"? Sorry, but I can barely notice the difference between the SGSIIs feel and iPhones feel apart from glass usually being cool to the touch, and I prefer the plastic by far.
And aesthetic look? Well, put a case on it and that's probably gone...

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Originally Posted by Riou View Post
That is why I buy a ThinkPad. I dropped it off a table. Still works fine.

People drop their phones a lot. Alcohol + iPhone = shattered glass
IBM and Samsung prove you don't need aluminium to make an indestructable laptop, my Samsung R540 is any bit as indestructable as my Thinkpad R40e was, it also proves Apple tend to really make too many short cuts in design for the sake of aesthetics, to the direct loss for every consumer.

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Originally Posted by ImmortalKenny View Post
Their next video should include dropping a glass cup and a plastic cup from 5ft above the ground and see what happens.

Seriously though, it's like people were surprised with the results. You make a phone with a glass front and back, of course it might shatter when you drop it .
The SGSIIs entire front is glass too, the difference being it has plastic around the corners to help prevent the glass actually directly hitting stuff.

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Originally Posted by LastBucsfan View Post
Apple did not "innovate" the smartphone. Blackberries and Windows phones were around long before the iPhone.
They made it mainstream, although just like MP3 players and consumer tablets I don't think they were too far off anyway.

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Originally Posted by Goliath.ro View Post
Listen, I do not like apple, I do not own any of their products nor do I plan to get one, I in fact plan to get the galaxy nexus when it finally hits stores locally.

However when watching the video I wanted to see the full damage on the Galaxy when it was first dropped, because I do not know what I saw if its minimal damage and the back just got opened and all they did was close it or if it was worse.

It might be just me but the whole video feels to me ooo look how bad is apples product ( and it is bad the way it shattered no denying that ) and see no damage on galaxy s2 see no damage ... but they were so fast you barely see ...
That's not damage, the back of the case came undone a bit and could easily be pushed back in.

Stop grasping at straws.
Edited by Brutuz - 10/22/11 at 9:27am
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post #138 of 155
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A "better feel"? Sorry, but I can barely notice the difference between the SGSIIs feel and iPhones feel apart from glass usually being cool to the touch, and I prefer the plastic by far.
And aesthetic look? Well, put a case on it and that's probably gone...
I much prefer the feel of glass and metal on the 4S than I do the plastic (which I assume to be similar to that on the SG2) on my 3GS. When I say "aesthetic look" I'm also talking about how the display looks, not the content but rather... I don't really know how to describe it.

It seems to "pop", as if the content is literally on the top of the screen whereas the screen on my 3GS looks like it sits back in the device.

I don't intend to put a case on my 4S, naked is FTW... unless you drop it of course, but I'll be careful to not do that.
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Plastic can be smooth or textile, the SGSIIs is textile, I prefer it because it lets me keep a better grip on the device (But that's personal anyway)

Same thing happens with both my HTC Dream from 2009 and SGSII, but with better colour representation by far on the SGSII. (sAMOLED ftw)
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I know what you mean; some phones have their actual displays tucked behind the glass screen too far inside.

The SGS II's display is very slick, where the screen displays content really close to the screen. The AMOLED panel allows for a use of a thinner digitizer I believe, thus enabling Samsung to put it real close to the glass.
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