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If AMD can significantly cut down power consumption problems they're having, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to just bump up the clock speeds to somewhere around 4.0 or even 4.4 GHz. At that clock speed, AMD ought to be able to compete reasonably with Intel on single threaded workloads and just slaughter Intel on multithreaded workloads.
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IMO. i don't think 8 cores will be properly utilized not for another 3+ years.

Assuming of course, no major breakthroughs in CPU technology occur between then and now.

When i first heard Bulldozer i was immediately skeptical - my first thought was "Well chucking more cores on a CPU isn't exactly going to improve performance if software has only just started properly using quad core"

I can't say i was surprised when Bulldozer turned out to be the disappointment that it is. As an Intel user, it doesn't mean i'm not just a little disappointed either. Competition is good and AMD arn't giving Intel that competition.
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The excuse AMD's dished out in reply to the bittersweet performance of BD is that Windows 7 does not have the necessary instructions and scheduler optimizations to fully make use of the Module architecture. These issues are likely to be addressed with the launch of Windows 8.
We already know performance increase when using BD in Windows 8 is mediocre at best. Definitely not the miracle that some people seem to be hoping for.
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IMO. i don't think 8 cores will be properly utilized not for another 3+ years.

Assuming of course, no major breakthroughs in CPU technology occur between then and now.

When i first heard Bulldozer i was immediately skeptical - my first thought was "Well chucking more cores on a CPU isn't exactly going to improve performance if software has only just started properly using quad core"
Plenty of software can already utilize well over eight cores and Bulldozer's performance, relative to it's cost and power consumption is still not terribly impressive.

Scheduler improvements and more aware OSes/apps will help, but the hardware likely needs quite a bit of work as well.
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So um if an 8 core bulldozer can barely keep up with a 4 core 2500k now (in insanely multithreaded apps), what is going to happen when intel releases some updated 6 core cpu's and maybe 8 core cpu's?
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So um if an 8 core bulldozer can barely keep up with a 4 core 2500k now (in insanely multithreaded apps), what is going to happen when intel releases some updated 6 core cpu's and maybe 8 core cpu's?
I think for the near future Intel is more likely to concentrate its 6+ core offerings at the server/workstation market instead of consumer desktops. 6 core Xeon chips aren't really expected to compete with Bulldozer.
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post #17 of 25
It sucks that AMD failed at launch, but now they need to pick it up and fine tune this Bulldozer for greatness. Hopefully they succeed in turning Bulldozer into a beastly CPU.

They better get crackin' though, the competition won't be resting.
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post #18 of 25
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If AMD can significantly cut down power consumption problems they're having, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to just bump up the clock speeds to somewhere around 4.0 or even 4.4 GHz. At that clock speed, AMD ought to be able to compete reasonably with Intel on single threaded workloads and just slaughter Intel on multithreaded workloads.
You must be joking !! In cinebench single-threaded, a stock i5 2400 beats FX-8150 @ 4.7GHz

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You must be joking !! In cinebench single-threaded, a stock i5 2400 beats FX-8150 @ 4.7GHz

I wouldn't buy a chip designed for multithreaded applications, to run single threaded apps.
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it wil be fixed when people code thier software to consider amd processors
Just like with Intel and Hyperthreading. What is the motivation for software developers to do this?

If you are expecting this to happen, I believe that you are going to be waiting for a while. So long that by the time it might become common in software, that a better AMD processor will be available.
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