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Why? You can't makeup IPC with more clock speed.
Unless it comes 5ghz stock and overclocks upto 7ghz on air.

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Wouldn't it just make more sense for Amd to copy intel's designs and sell them at a cheaper price?
Yeah, sure. Except Intel would sue them and win.
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Why? You can't makeup IPC with more clock speed. Wouldn't it just make more sense for Amd to copy intel's designs and sell them at a cheaper price?
Yes, you can.
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Yea your comment makes sense. They should have done the review better -overclocking the 2600K as well, would give us an idea out things looked.
Well you can compare here...


Though these results aren't too bad here...still not worth the current price tag for a FX8150, but I am still thinking a FX8120 is looking like a decent deal provided you get at least a 4.5GHz OC out of it. Still too many other reviews with worse scores and the few OCN member reviews haven't been doing too hot either.

I was actually more interested in the results of the "stock" water cooler.
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Even at 1.55V, we weren't pushing the FX cooler past it limits. During stability testing, CPU temperatures topped out at around 54.5° C, with an ambient room temperature of about 74° F/23° C. Yeah, the thing was incredibly loud—I'd give you a decibel number, but we're currently having the roof replaced, and I don't want to harm the workers' ears. Er, I mean, all of the hammering would throw off the measurements. Still, the cooler itself could have taken more heat, had we needed it.
heh not too good I take it. At least sound wise. So maybe a fan replacement might help?
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post #24 of 95
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Yes, you can.
Ofcourse i can't remember the benchmark off the top of my head but werent there a few of them with the 8150 at 4.5Ghz and it still lost to a 2600K at stock?
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I'm going to have to pass in this one... revision if its better than ivy, ill consider. But amd lost my monies thus round ...
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Yes, you can.
To a point, but this has never really proved to be a great strategy - see Netburst. Higher clocks mean higher temperatures, more power consumption, less reliability and less overclocking headroom for those of us who do want to push those limits. In addition, we often don't see linear gains in performance from increased clocks.
post #27 of 95
So at best bulldozer keeps up with the 2600K if they are both OCed around 4.5, but still falls behind most of the time and uses a lot more power.
    
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Power usage/core is a meaningless statistic. Power usage/performance is a relevant statistic. Take a look at how much power consumption dropped from the 9xx series to the 2xxx series in this same chart, and also take into consideration how much performance increased. Doesn't seem "not bad at all" to me.
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45nm vs 32nm, there's no reason why Bulldozer should draw more power than its predecessor.
Let us compare it to Intels 970 then. Both are 32nm and both use 209W at stock clocks while BD is clocked higher and has 2 more cores. Yes I understand that I'm comparing BD to Intels last gen CPU's but this does give us some hope that newer revisions will draw less power.
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To a point, but this has never really proved to be a great strategy - see Netburst. Higher clocks mean higher temperatures, more power consumption, less reliability and less overclocking headroom for those of us who do want to push those limits. In addition, we often don't see linear gains in performance from increased clocks.
Yes but when you use something like a Phenom II vs the Core 2 Quad lineup you see this theory work out well. If overclocking didn't improve IPC at all, why does this forum exist and why do people overclock?
     
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This just made me even happier that I converted to Intel a few minutes ago.
 
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