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Hello, I've been reading an awful lot of good things about the Noctua flagship while all the while I keep hearing and reading half asses rubbish about the H70.

I've been using an H70 for quite a while now, but I always thought about getting something better in the end.

I've got a few pro's and cons about both, so let me start out.
Let me add that I'm not using any fancy charts or whatever, just raw data I'm reading off my screen and hearing from my case.

I'm using a Haf 932 as a case and using CoreTemp to read the temperatures.
CPU specs: i7-950, Vcore @ 1.267 on 4GHZ
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CPU-Stresses: Intel Burn Test v.2.50, Maximum (100% CPU, 12GB of ram)

In my old case, the H70 would keep my temperatures at a max of 74 degrees on Core 1, it was places in a Cooler Master Elite 430 with a window on the side.
It was relatively quiet when I changed the fans into Nexus Real Silent PWM fans (120mm)

In this new case, it kept my degrees at a maximum of 78 degrees, and due to superior casing it is a bit quieter too.

Now I only recently installed the NH-D14, it being said that even when running on max RPM, this thing should be as quiet as a mouse.
Well, this mouse is driving a Nascar I tell you.
I don't know what this might mean, but at the moment, Coretemp's readings are shooting from 72-74 (steady) to 59-61 to sometimes even as low as 49.
Still, this thing is keeping my processor pretty cool, and the compound hasn't even settled yet.

That being said, the NH-D14 is quite a bit louder, (over double the amount of noise) at full RPM under 100% load that the H70 was, while the H70 kept it at approximately the same temperatures with the PWM fans set to low and the pump set to max.

Although, when I set my H70 on all maximum RPMs, I the H70 would beat the NH-D14 in terms of noise, but hardly in cooling capacity.

All in all, I'm pretty satisfied with both of them, albeit the NH-D14 being a bit louder.
I'm going to stay with the Noctua, as it clearly is superior in looks, and I'll be setting it's RPM's a bit looser.
Later I'll be installing a second fan controller so I can control each of the Noctua fans Individually.
    
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The NH-D14 is definately better than the H70 i think by far.

My load temps are arounf 57-58C,IDLE temps at 23C
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The NH-D14 is definately better than the H70 i think by far.

My load temps are arounf 57-58C,IDLE temps at 23C
Nah. The acetek systems cool the same or better, but you have to run your fans on high and you must use a push pull configuration.

Anyone who says the D14 wins easily is wrong, period. The D14 is also quite loud. Now the NH-D14 is not a bad cooler. But its ridiculously big, so big that I can't get to my upper PCI express locking mechanism, and it also blocks 1 of my RAM slots. This is on an ATX full tower case and an asus motherboard...the thing is so big its ridiculous. And I don't feel like fooling with a CPU cooler just to get to my upper most GPU? Forget that.



NH-D14 vs 920 here:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...overclock.html

the antec kuhler is also an acetek closed loop, like the corsair h50/60.
Edited by xoleras - 10/20/11 at 12:50pm
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May be so, but this is just a little thing I did for my own.
Everyone sets different standards to their cooling, and as for me, I care a lot for aesthetics and noise and for me the H70 cooled nearly as good as the NH-D14 but was just a bit quieter.
Being as I'll never stress it at full load during games, it will never reach the danger zone in terms of heat, so for my purposes, I already had an ace cooler.

But being as I like the Noctua's design more than the H70, it stays, even though I don't think it performs exceedingly better.
    
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the H70 would keep my temperatures at a max of 74 degrees


http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1395/7/
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Nah. The acetek systems cool the same or better, but you have to run your fans on high and you must use a push pull configuration.

Anyone who says the D14 wins easily is wrong, period. The D14 is also quite loud. Now the NH-D14 is not a bad cooler. But its ridiculously big, so big that I can't get to my upper PCI express locking mechanism, and it also blocks 1 of my RAM slots. This is on an ATX full tower case and an asus motherboard...the thing is so big its ridiculous. And I don't feel like fooling with a CPU cooler just to get to my upper most GPU? Forget that.



NH-D14 vs 920 here:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...overclock.html

the antec kuhler is also an acetek closed loop, like the corsair h50/60.
Thanks for a bit of feedback, I tried getting my hands on some fans with a bunch of static pressure for my H70, but all the ones I got were extremely noisy.
In the end I just settled for the PWN fans and I was happy.

As for space, yeah it's pretty big, although on my R3E I can still get to every part without a problem.
It does cover 1 ram slot, but I can still take it out without any issue, and I still have about 3 centimeters clearing between my cooler and my GPU.
I can even still access all the fan connectors and my ATX12V connectors, I'm golden in terms of space,
    
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I stated everything that I used, from compound, to temp manager, to fans.
What more do you want from me?

I think results may vary when you use different compounds and fans, am I correct?
    
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Rubbish, the Corsair NH-D14 totally beats the Noctua H70! And don't even get me started on how much the Thermalright Hyper 212... Wait what..?

There is always going to be some discrepancy between tests as each testing scenario varies. Is it in a case or free air? What model and even individual chip was used? Was it installed correctly? How many remounts were done? What are the results actually reporting (e.g best of three, average mount)?

The biggest variation seems to be the fans used. There are cases for and against standardizing the fans; yes we enthusiasts will most likely replace them at some point (unless they are good to start with), but then that is not what you get when you buy product x. Personally I would like to see results from both stock fans and standardized fans, but that tends to be expensive and time consuming for the testers.


So whilst independant tests vary and anecdotal evidence isn't really worth the electrons it is written with how then do we decide which is the best? If you have plenty of time and money you can buy both and see which works out best for your setup. If you don't (like most people) you can choose based on which fits your needs better, regardless of any small performance differences there may or may not be.

Basically all these "discussions" are usually quite pointless as what works best for you will not suit someone else and may even perform worse. Good job we have this thing called choice isn't it?

Oh, and xoleras, that chart shows the NH-C14.
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Hmm... its a C0 stepping ?

Temps seem a bit high to me...
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The biggest variation seems to be the fans used. There are cases for and against standardizing the fans; yes we enthusiasts will most likely replace them at some point (unless they are good to start with), but then that is not what you get when you buy product x. Personally I would like to see results from both stock fans and standardized fans, but that tends to be expensive and time consuming for the testers.
Very time consuming... Trust me.


I went from the H70 to the TR Silver Arrow and never looked back. Slightly better cooling, but much much quieter.

When I had the H70, I found the stocks fans to be the best. The stocks fans on the H70 on low speed with the inline resistor was good enough. But good enough wasn't 'good enough' for me so I opted for the Silver Arrow.
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