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Hey there, pretty new to Overclock.net and pretty new to building a machine, as this is my first one. Almost ready to buy everything but I've found a snag and I'm lost. Hope someone can help.

Board: ASUS M4A87TD 3.0 USB EVO
Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 3.7GHZ
Case: Thermaltake Armor+ vh6000bws

Now orginally my plan was to go with a nVIDIA GPU, but after learning my board is Crossfire-X and not SLI, I'm leaning toward something like the Radeon HD 6970. I had found a PSU that seems to be close to what I'd need, KingWin Mach 1 ATX 1220 Watt. After watching a youtube video, they said the KingWin is SLI compatible. Does this matter with Crossfire-X? Will I need to find a PSU that does support Crossfire-X? My plans are to buy what is needed to get the machine up and running and slowly start buying other add-ons that I want; and a two GPU system is what I'd like to accomplish. As I've said before this is all pretty new to me, building one from scratch anyways.

So please anyone with any tips or suggestions please help me out. About to tear my hair out. Thanks.
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A PSU isn't 'compatible' with crossfire or SLI, it's just a marketing term for the product. What they mean is that it is 'capable' of running 2 or more graphics cards in crossfire/SLI because it has enough power output. A 450w PSU wouldn't be able to support 2 high end cards ins crossfire/SLI, so when they put the term compatible on a higher wattage PSU all they mean is that it has enough power output to run it. There is no PSU for crossfire only and another one for SLI only, if a PSU has enough wattage it can support either.

For your particular needs, a 1220W PSU is overkill, by a long mile. If you want to run 2 6970s in the future, maybe look at a 750w or 850w system at the maximum, anything else would be extreme overkill. Also be careful about what PSU you buy, if you purchase one that is not up to scratch your whole PC build will not work. In other words, don't skimp on the PSU purchase. Have a look here: http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...-supplies.html for PSUs recommended by others on OCN for their good build quality, performance and reliability.

Also have a look at this: http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp to get a better idea of exactly what power output you will need in your PSU for your components.
    
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1055T [3.82Ghz @ 1.4v] Asus M5A97 EVO [NB - 2.45Ghz @ 1.275v] MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II @ 850core 2000mem 1.05v G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB [1450Mhz 9-9-9-24-2T (CBF t... 
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1055T [3.82Ghz @ 1.4v] Asus M5A97 EVO [NB - 2.45Ghz @ 1.275v] MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II @ 850core 2000mem 1.05v G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB [1450Mhz 9-9-9-24-2T (CBF t... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1.5TB Samsung + 2x 1TB WD Caviar Blue Hyper 212+ Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 21.5" Samsung 1920x1080 
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Razer Lycosa Corsair HX650 Thermaltake V3 Black Edition Razer Deathadder 
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Thanks! This is what I was thinking, but couldn't find anything online to support it. Its possibly overkill now, but I'm planning on adding two DVD burners, liquid cool (one or two loops), networking card, sound card, the dual GPUs, 6 2TB HDDs, and the Aquaero 5, with all 6 poweradjusts. Not sure how much power that thing will snag but it would seem like a lot. Thanks for your reply! Gotta run off to work but I'll check those links later. Thanks again!
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Hey there, pretty new to Overclock.net and pretty new to building a machine, as this is my first one. Almost ready to buy everything but I've found a snag and I'm lost. Hope someone can help.

Board: ASUS M4A87TD 3.0 USB EVO
Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 3.7GHZ
Case: Thermaltake Armor+ vh6000bws

Now orginally my plan was to go with a nVIDIA GPU, but after learning my board is Crossfire-X and not SLI, I'm leaning toward something like the Radeon HD 6970. I had found a PSU that seems to be close to what I'd need, KingWin Mach 1 ATX 1220 Watt. After watching a youtube video, they said the KingWin is SLI compatible. Does this matter with Crossfire-X? Will I need to find a PSU that does support Crossfire-X? My plans are to buy what is needed to get the machine up and running and slowly start buying other add-ons that I want; and a two GPU system is what I'd like to accomplish. As I've said before this is all pretty new to me, building one from scratch anyways.

So please anyone with any tips or suggestions please help me out. About to tear my hair out. Thanks.
I shall help you to make a better rig:
cpu- i5 2500k
mobo- asrock z68 extreme3 gen3(sli & x-fire supported)
ram- 2x4gb corsair vengeance/gskill ripjawsX 1600mhz cl9 kit
gpu- gtx570
psu- corsair tx650v2
pc case- antec900/cm haf922/corsair carbide 400r
cooler- cm hyper212+
ssd(optional)- ocz agility3 60gb
hdd- 2tb wd cavair black
optical drive- asus 24x dual layer dvd burner.
Hope you like this rig!
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 HP dvd1260 Zalman CNPS 9900 NT Windows7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster P2250 21.5" 1920x1080 Logitech G105 Corsair gs600 80+ Bronze Corsair Carbide 400R 
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Razer Spectre Starcraft II  Razer Goliathus Dragon AgeII Edition (speed) 
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@ Mr. Moon
Where I in no way dought your knowledge here, because I'm sure you know more than I when trying to compute your energy needs, but I just used ASUS's power calculator and they suggest at least 1250watts min. Am I figuring this out wrong? Where was no input for additional drivebay addons or an option for liquid cooling. I'm just worried ill put $200 into a psu and it not be enough down the road. But by all means I wouldn't want to overkill as well. The overclocks site suggests only very high end machines would require a psu so large. My main reason for such a large case and many HDDs is simply becausr I need that much space. Already have 5 2TB HDDs on several other pcs nearly full. So who should I listen to? Need more info on the parts ill be adding?
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