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and of course he would bow out right as his arguments are waning...
Damn I missed it.
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Android "innovated" that from WebOS.
That is good to know, thanks. Never got to use any WebOS devices.
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post #103 of 228
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Can you show me how you can install a widget on the regular iOS home screen on an non-jailbroken device? - Oh I see, let's also limit Android features to not being rooted or using custom ROMs, then I can make up an ignorant statement about how Android is lacking X feature too!
Do I have to hold you hand for everything?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=JFlvXnhIjX0

Or how iOS customization is as robust as Android customization? - It's not. It's even more robust and featureful. Just check out how many useful apps there are available in the app store vs the android market. Poorly done and ugly, in my opinion, apps aren't even comparable.

Do you have any way to show me that widgets originated on a Mac? Straw-man tactics? I said Windows copied Dashboard from OSX that had been in the OS by default since 2005. DesktopX is not part of Windows. You then claimed that DesktopX did it first as a 3-rd party app on Windows, 5 years before. Again, another incorrect statement.


Or is 'no, you are wrong' as far as your discussion abilities go? - Learn to use Google for ignorant questions next time. If you don't know how to do something on the iPhone, Google it before crying about it not existing here.


Nothing anyone has said so far is a valid complaint against the iPhone. It's simply user ignorance.
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Desktop widget I said, I like how you always say this and then that but never ever provide any proof with your counter argument. If it's so easy go ahead and show us. Verona Desktop Enhancer was released in 99 btw and is what preceded desktopX.

Can you show me how you can install a widget on the regular iOS home screen on an non-jailbroken device?

Or how iOS customization is as robust as Android customization?

Do you have any way to show me that widgets originated on a Mac?



Or is 'no, you are wrong' as far as your discussion abilities go?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you keep weakening your argument with the continuous mention of "non-jailbroken". He's right to keep reminding you that it literally takes 10 seconds to sit down, pull up Safari, and choose the Jailbreak of your choice.
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You really are pretty thick aren't you. You dont even remember your own arguments lol. You said the idea of widgets (on android) was taken from Dashboard. I showed you that widgets existed far before Dashboard by giving you both a web widget example and a desktop widget example...

I always said that I was talking about vanilla Android vs. vanilla iOS yet you keep using jailbroken examples like the video you linked above.

You then claim that iOS is more robust in the customization department and jjsoviet comes in to shut down your claim. Your counter argument is that there are more apps in iOS.

You havent refuted a single argument, all you do is remind us to use google but apparently google isn't helping you find any evidence for your counter argument.
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post #106 of 228
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but you keep weakening your argument with the continuous mention of "non-jailbroken". He's right to keep reminding you that it literally takes 10 seconds to sit down, pull up Safari, and choose the Jailbreak of your choice.
How does that weaken my argument that a non jailbroken iOS device is not as customizable as a non-rooted Android device?

Many people don't want to root/jailbreak.

In other words you're telling me that my argument is weakening my argument lol. and jjsoviet has the whole rooted vs jailbroken thing down pat it seems. Read that.
Edited by CaptainChaos - 10/22/11 at 1:54pm
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post #107 of 228
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Nothing anyone has said so far is a valid complaint against the iPhone. It's simply user ignorance.
Try mine. :3

Also, a word about the supposed 'ugliness' of Android - you can make Android look really beautiful if you want it to be. The responsibility is given to you, the user, on how the entire Android UI looks and feels.

My mom requested an iPhone lookalike and my dad loved WP7's TileUI. I like to keep it clean. So, why not?




Edited by jjsoviet - 10/22/11 at 1:58pm
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Neither Android or iPhone are companies, just products so gizmodo should change the title to "which aged better" instead of "who aged better".
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Originally Posted by jjsoviet View Post
Try mine. :3
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So you think customization and functionality can be done just as good on iOS as it is on Android?
There is no think. It is.


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Originally Posted by jjsoviet View Post
Complete file access to the Android subsystems


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Robust widget system

Though there are iOS alternatives and workaroungs, things such as SBSettings, etc. has nothing on real Android widgets.
Also, these widgets can do a lot more than just aggregating news or displaying the weather; you can set them up to do specific tasks such as open an app (whether relevant or not) or send a message, invoke a function on the phone, etc.
SBsettings isn't a widget alternative. It's just a theme alternative. Don't try to claim that because SBSettings can't create a widget that iOS doesn't have widgets... See the already posted above example of one such option.



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Native codec playback
  • support for different codecs (MKV, FLAC, OGG, etc.)
  • plays native 720p/1080p content
  • software or hardware acceleration
  • subtitles and different audio tracks


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Integrated sharing options
  • a picture in the Gallery can be shared through any of the installed apps that could perform such tasks such as Dropbox.
  • An article from Feedly or Pulse can be mailed to somebody via Gmail,
  • a YouTube video's link can be encoded as a QR code without manually launching an app.
  • The same thing as sharing a link... Neither is this a customization of the OS.



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Originally Posted by CaptainChaos View Post
you keep using jailbroken examples like the video you linked above.
Is it iOS? Does it take 10 seconds to get it on your phone? Quit whining about something so meaningless. Guess you'll make up any excuse to try and pretend that you can't customize iPhones...

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jjsoviet comes in to shut down your claim.
See above. Just more misinformation by uninformed users. There's thousands more ignorant people like him and you for it to keep going on and on.

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You havent refuted a single argument.
You've chosen to ignore every example.
Go back and read the thread again. Every example pointed out where ignorant users claimed that the iPhone was lacking, I showed an example of. There are many more options available.
If you actually tried to look and do your own research rather than whining at the first step on some computer forum you'd accomplish a lot more in life.


So to sum it all up: Q. Can you customize the iPhone? A. Yes.
User error is the only thing holding you back.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 10/22/11 at 2:30pm
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Upping the ante, I see. Well then.



Android allows you to basically tear down its components and lets you do your thing. I won't even dare touch some of the configuration files because I may do harm to the OS if I edited them incorrectly. But if you know what you're doing, you can do a lot of stuff by editing some values here and there.



Also, Recovery Mode and ROM backups. You can download ROMs straight from the devs as soon as they are pushed to the github, as well as make local backups of your phone as a save state. I get it that iTunes does have a recovery mode, but it does not offer backups of entire settings and apps as they were in a state prior to the backup.



Notification Widgets =/= Homescreen Widgets. One only works when pulling down on the notification bar, the other can show up anywhere in the homescreen and offers a much more variety. You can even create a layout of your own provided the template for the widget is available. Mix and match fonts, graphics and actions - this is way different than the one you are describing.


Video playback is a given, and I've heard iOS5 just recently allowed 1080p playback when back in the days of the EVO 4G and Droid X you can do so already. VLC is definitely a robust player, and only now we're having an Android version - no matter, other apps have the same functionality.
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