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Sorry to burst your bubble, but you keep weakening your argument with the continuous mention of "non-jailbroken". He's right to keep reminding you that it literally takes 10 seconds to sit down, pull up Safari, and choose the Jailbreak of your choice.
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble.

But I've spent an entire weekend trying to jailbreak my iPod by going to that "10 second site", downloading different programs, following YouTube videos, reading different tutorials, etc. etc. etc. Even got help from a few OCN'ers along the way.

In the end, I lost all my music, had to re-install IOS, and my iPod is still not Jailbroken. Maybe I was "doing it wrong"

On that note, will the iPhone 4S ( IOS 5 ) be easily jailbroken, or is it already?
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I learned a long time ago not to debate anything with people who scoop poop. Sooner or later, you guys will learn this too. You won't get anywhere with him, just let it go.
Edited by 2010rig - 10/22/11 at 5:16pm
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I already explained how you can do a full backup straight from your phone. You can gzip everything into one file as well. You're not explaining anything new here.
Why would a file manager not be able to edit a file? All you need is root access...
Custom ROMs are exactly that. Custom. They can remove features or add their own customizations and skinning by deafault. Why do you seem to think there's any difference?
iTunes isn't the only way to access your device... If I'm having to explain this to you, no wonder you don't understand. We've been using something as basic as ssh since 2007 to modify the iPhone. Even before custom ROMs were popular.
Yes, I know about SSH and the terminal. That's how I was able to dual-boot to Froyo many moons ago, and it was a freaking pain to follow each step. Did it way before automatic installers were developed.

Maybe I have worded my explanation incorrectly. Android's implementation of ROMs is different for a number of reasons - they can be direct ports from other phones or built from source, they should be much more different than stock than a custom iOS from a stock one (prove me wrong broski) and they can retain root functionality after a major update. I cannot see iOS being able to retain jailbreaking status after Apple releases an offical update, which seriously sucks when you're already deeply entrenched in your customized iPhone sporting a prior version.

Also, from my experience jailbreaking the iPhone kinda slows down the device a bit especially when heavily editing the OS framework - which the rather mid-end specs of most iPhones don't work in their favor. Obviously the 4S has more than enough muscle to handle this thanks to the A5 chip, but previous versions might not be so lucky. In contrast, Android devices enjoy speed increases with custom ROMs because developers put effort into optimizing the OS to the specific devices. Even my old fart Cliq with its 582MHz processor bogs on MotoBLUR but runs like a dream with CyanogenMod 7.
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Sorry to burst everyone's bubble.

But I've spent an entire weekend trying to jailbreak my iPod by going to that "10 second site", downloading different programs, following YouTube videos, reading different tutorials, etc. etc. etc. Even got help from a few OCN'ers along the way.

In the end, I lost all my music, had to re-install IOS, and my iPod is still not Jailbroken. Maybe I was "doing it wrong"

On that note, will the iPhone 4S ( IOS 5 ) be easily jailbroken, or is it already?
I don't know why you have so much trouble when neither I or anyone else I know who has an iPhone does but here's a different manual method that even the simplest can follow: http://iclarified.com/jailbreak/index.php
And yes, read more at http://blog.iphone-dev.org/

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Yes, I know about SSH and the terminal. That's how I was able to dual-boot to Froyo many moons ago, and it was a freaking pain to follow each step. Did it way before automatic installers were developed.

Maybe I have worded my explanation incorrectly. Android's implementation of ROMs is different for a number of reasons - they can be direct ports from other phones or built from source, they should be much more different than stock than a custom iOS from a stock one (prove me wrong broski) and they can retain root functionality after a major update. I cannot see iOS being able to retain jailbreaking status after Apple releases an offical update, which seriously sucks when you're already deeply entrenched in your customized iPhone sporting a prior version.

Also, from my experience jailbreaking the iPhone kinda slows down the device a bit especially when heavily editing the OS framework - which the rather mid-end specs of most iPhones don't work in their favor. Obviously the 4S has more than enough muscle to handle this thanks to the A5 chip, but previous versions might not be so lucky. In contrast, Android devices enjoy speed increases with custom ROMs because developers put effort into optimizing the OS to the specific devices. Even my old fart Cliq with its 582MHz processor bogs on MotoBLUR but runs like a dream with CyanogenMod 7.
There's ROMs that even give iPhone 2Gs iOS4 features and actually improve performance over vanilla 3.1.3. Whited00r is one example.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 10/22/11 at 4:46pm
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Are you suggesting that Samsung's PenTile displays are BETTER than a normal LCDs? If you are then you are very misinformed. Less subpixels always means worse image quality, no matter what. Although supposedly the contrast ratio is very high, that doesn't mean it will beat the iPhone 4S' display.
Read the article I posted in that other thread - see how the Galaxy Note is owning the SGS II even when zoomed in while it's comparable to the IPS display of the iPhone 4. The subpixels at 720p resolution are incredibly difficult to discern with the naked eye, but admittedly easier to spot on an 800x480 resolution.
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The arguments on this thread are getting old. This won't end them, but I'll say right now that I've found very little to customize my iPhone unless I want to jailbreak it. Android seems far more customizable without the need for a jailbreak.

Not sure why the Apple fanboys disagree with this, Apples OSes and hardware have always been fairly locked down. In fact, the restrictions Apple places on everything is part of what drives some to PCs and Android. Simultaneously it is also what a lot of people love about Apple, because that inflexibility prevents hardware/software segmentation.
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post
I don't know why you have so much trouble when neither I or anyone else I know who has an iPhone does but here's a different manual method that even the simplest can follow: http://iclarified.com/jailbreak/index.php
And yes, read more at http://blog.iphone-dev.org/

There's ROMs that even give iPhone 2Gs iOS4 features and actually improve performance over vanilla 3.1.3. Whited00r is one example.
Problem is it's a 2nd Gen iPod Touch. It's not supported on that 10 second site, and none of the guides work, I've given up on it. Usario helped me out a lot, and neither he or I could figure out how to get it to work. I did spend an entire weekend on it, only ended up frustrated and turned off by the locked down nature of IOS.
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kinda late but I think this photo works well with the GTR comparison

 
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Since we're all talking about customization, has the iPhone 4S got an untethered jailbreak available yet?
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kinda late but I think this photo works well with the GTR comparison


dude you speak my language the GT-R is the most perfect car you can buy OMG i cant wait till the day i can accaully drive one
     
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Just ignore PoopaScoopa, the guy is a 1uper for everything.

You start arguing about warranties he will talk about how great the Apple warranty is.

Start talking about widgets and he will say you can jailbreak your iPhone and have widgets.

He separates the arguments even though they don't make sense for him to argue.

Jailbroken=/=No warranty.
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