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Originally Posted by GTR Mclaren View Post
real world benchmark, same performance

stop with the drama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kd4d...&feature=feedu


the only real problem of BD is power consumption
sorry bro but bd was a huge disappointment. If you say otherwise you are in denial. Take it from a former amd fan boy.
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Why in the world would gamers buy an 8 core CPU with weaker (relative to other CPUs) cores when games are not very heavily threaded? Even the games that do use a lot of threads are heavy on 4 max and light on the rest.
    
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Let's take a look at Crossfire performance:
Bulldozer "Zambezi" FX-8150 twenty Game Benchmarks with CrossFire vs. Phenom II and Core i7, oh look:
The 3 year old i7-920 @4.0GHz is beating the FX-8150 with crossfire enabled whenever the games become CPU-limited. Even the Phenom II X4 980 BE puts up a good fight matching or beating the FX-8150 in games. That is not just bad, it's ridiculous.

Bulldozer has a lot of problems with single-threaded performance, and saying power consumption is the only problem is just plain wrong.

er... most serious gamerz stick with ONE serious card. I don't know to many people who are into actual performance, use multi-card.

Highly refined tunning of a rig, can benefit more than tossing $$ at retard strength.
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er... most serious gamerz stick with ONE serious card. I don't know to many people who are into actual performance, use multi-card.

Highly refined tunning of a rig, can benefit more than tossing $$ at retard strength.
That is NOT a good argument for Zambezi.
I don't see why people keep bringing this up. What you're tossing money at is the cores. An 8120 is the same price as a 2500K. I would agree on that point if it was something like a 990X and a GTX 260 or something. Obviously that doesn't make sense and is a waste of money, or even a 2600K when your GPU is lacking and $100 towards your GPU will give you much better performance. But the thing you forget is that Zambezi actually costs MORE or THE SAME as a 2500K, depending on if you use the 8150 or 8120. And if you're not going with an 8 core, you might as well get a Phenom II X4 or X6 instead of the 6100/4100, as their single thread performance is pretty bad.

The fact is that for gaming, $220 is MUCH better spent on a 2500K than an 8120, no matter how you spin it.
    
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Wait... if you test two CPU's against in other in a test where the CPU doesn't matter... THEY PERFORM ALMOST THE SAME?!

That's it, buying a BD from Newegg right now. Forget the better performing significantly cheaper X6, and every intel chip, and forget the absurd power consumption, and the bluescreens of death, and the crazy heat, THIS THINGS HAS 8 CORES.
Haha this man nailed it.

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post #46 of 109
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er... most serious gamerz stick with ONE serious card. I don't know to many people who are into actual performance, use multi-card.

Highly refined tunning of a rig, can benefit more than tossing $$ at retard strength.
I have better spelling than you, and English isn't even my native language...

Being a Crossfire user, I know exactly why most serious gamers stick with one card: microstutter.
That doesn't change how FX-8150 struggles to keep above 60fps minimum in games while an i5-2500k can get a consistent 120fps after a decent overclock.

"Refined" tuning? There's nothing refined about overclocking:
More voltage and cooling leads to more megahertz, it's brute-forcing higher performance at the cost of reduced lifetime.
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post #47 of 109
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er... most serious gamerz stick with ONE serious card. I don't know to many people who are into actual performance, use multi-card.

Highly refined tunning of a rig, can benefit more than tossing $$ at retard strength.
How many serious "gamerz" do you know? There are many people that use Crossfire and SLI quite effectively to increase their framerates significantly. What exactly makes you think "Highly refined tuning" can't be done to multiple cards? I'm not even entirely certain you know what highly refined tuning means. With AMD and nVidia making incredible advancements to help reduce microstutter and scaling issues, multiple card scenarios are a lot more powerful than they've ever been before. It sounds to me like you suffer from retard brain.

Just a caveat, this is in no way an endorsement of BD (as that's what this thread is about). I'm as sickened as any Intel fanboy by this fiasco. Just waiting for SBe to upgrade.
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post #48 of 109
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so...people...you get your hardware to PLAY some games or to PLAY CINEBENCH and those other benchmarks ??

Im not telling FX is better, in fact in my position if was about to build a system I would choose the 2500k for the less power consumption

but the FX hate is getting ridiculous

same thing happen months ago with the P67 massive recall

the only different was the actors, AMD fans thinking Intel will meet the creator...
If you want to make a processor decision based on GPU limited gaming tests using today's engines, go for it man.

Enjoy gaming in 2-3 years.

I'll continue to use tools like CineBench however that show what the CPU is actually capable of.

Oh and where I live, if your computer is on for 100 hours a month...a super easy feat; Bulldozer costs you an additional $120 per year from energy consumption.
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post #49 of 109
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Originally Posted by GTR Mclaren View Post
real world benchmark, same performance

stop with the drama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kd4d...&feature=feedu


the only real problem of BD is power consumption
Stop drama? lmao high heat,high power consumption,BSOD, magical registry fix which doesn't work and flawed AMD chipsets with 100's of unique bios options. AMD has just released a big pile of Bulldozers.
post #50 of 109
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I think the FX cpu's are going to be great for gaming , just as good as the 26/500k.


Nothing quite like using GPU bottlenecked applications as your benchmark for CPU performance.
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