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Judging by your last 100 posts on this forum, it's painfully obvious what your intentions are.
Oh of course, anyone trying to point out the facts is a troll...
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Oh of course, anyone trying to point out the facts is a troll...
There's a startling difference between addressing facts, having meaningful, productive discourse and being a troll; you obviously haven't been able to fully grasp that demarcation as of yet.

I certainly do look forward to you becoming a useful member around here though.
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My general feelings about all of this is it's first off, a failing of AMD's marketing plan. Second of all, they were slow to release yet quick to brag about their new architecture. And third of all, they rushed the release.

IMHO, for myself, BD is still a very viable upgrade option, seeing as my primary home desktop which I game on is sporting an old e2180, 2GB ram and windows XP.

The FX-4100 looks like a very tempting offer to me, assuming it doesn't have the same bug that the FX-8150 has been shown to have (and if AMD issues a hotfix for it, I really couldn't care less). 3.8GHz quad isn't bad for $130 on release (I'm also guessing that the prices might go down a bit), especially when it can match the gaming performance of an i5-2500k.

The biggest failure was poorly planned marketing along with everyone and their brother in the computer hardware arena assuming that the release would sweep the floor with intel--which I was skeptical of in the first place.

And people whose primary interest is gaming, criticizing the benchmarks that show the FX series keeping up with intel's i5 and i7 CPU's in games, yet unable to keep up in other/synthetic benchmarks, is just nitpicking. If all I care about is gaming performance and I can get the FX CPU's for less money and get the same gaming performance, I really have no reason to spend more on an intel CPU if the general things I do don't benefit from it.

I'd really love for AMD to release their hotfix, for the windows environment to more-efficiently utilize the architecture, only just so people can stop discussing this ad nauseum beyond the point of practical relevance.

It's a roadbump for AMD for sure, but I still think they're moderately successful with their release, and TBH, I'd be happy to have an FX-4100 or an FX-8150. Granted, if I had an i5 or an i7, there'd be no reason to switch. Except I don't, and it seems like a lot of OCN forgets that outside of our small enthusiast community, not everyone has 2500k's and 2600k's cranking at 4.5+GHz.
    
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There's a startling difference between addressing facts, having meaningful, productive discourse and being a troll; you obviously haven't been able to fully grasp that demarcation as of yet.

I certainly do look forward to you becoming a useful member around here though.
You want to have meaningful discussions as long as the conclusions agree with your own. As I said, if you can't handle the truth it's on you.

Go buy a Bull Dozer, I don't care, just don't come back here complaining it's not everything you thought it would be. The facts have been laid out. In particular, I don't want to see any whining when Bull Dozer can't keep up with the new GPUs. That's going to be a problem.
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You want to have meaningful discussions as long as the conclusions agree with your own.
What are my conclusions, Steak?

(and please provide quotes, not pure assumptions...)
post #76 of 109
Wow... why do these threads keep popping up?

BD is, for now, a failure. We all get it. Can someone PLEASE put a stop to this crap? The fanboyism is sickening right now.
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and it seems like a lot of OCN forgets that outside of our small enthusiast community, not everyone has 2500k's and 2600k's cranking at 4.5+GHz.
good point, best point in the thread.
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What are my conclusions, Steak?

(and please provide quotes, not pure assumptions...)
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Zambezi certainly isn't a CPU pancea; nor is it without merit.
Zambezi IS without merit. Plain and simple.

The 2500K & 2600K beat it in Performance & Price (Remember A 2600K Kills It For Efficiency).
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Zambezi IS without merit.
As I said before, it's rather obvious to everyone why you're here; comic relief to some, and a blatant troll to others. As a matter of fact, your IP shows that you're just forum member MinitroN under yet another throw-away account.
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My general feelings about all of this is it's first off, a failing of AMD's marketing plan. Second of all, they were slow to release yet quick to brag about their new architecture. And third of all, they rushed the release.

IMHO, for myself, BD is still a very viable upgrade option, seeing as my primary home desktop which I game on is sporting an old e2180, 2GB ram and windows XP.

The FX-4100 looks like a very tempting offer to me, assuming it doesn't have the same bug that the FX-8150 has been shown to have (and if AMD issues a hotfix for it, I really couldn't care less). 3.8GHz quad isn't bad for $130 on release (I'm also guessing that the prices might go down a bit), especially when it can match the gaming performance of an i5-2500k.

The biggest failure was poorly planned marketing along with everyone and their brother in the computer hardware arena assuming that the release would sweep the floor with intel--which I was skeptical of in the first place.

And people whose primary interest is gaming, criticizing the benchmarks that show the FX series keeping up with intel's i5 and i7 CPU's in games, yet unable to keep up in other/synthetic benchmarks, is just nitpicking. If all I care about is gaming performance and I can get the FX CPU's for less money and get the same gaming performance, I really have no reason to spend more on an intel CPU if the general things I do don't benefit from it.

I'd really love for AMD to release their hotfix, for the windows environment to more-efficiently utilize the architecture, only just so people can stop discussing this ad nauseum beyond the point of practical relevance.

It's a roadbump for AMD for sure, but I still think they're moderately successful with their release, and TBH, I'd be happy to have an FX-4100 or an FX-8150. Granted, if I had an i5 or an i7, there'd be no reason to switch. Except I don't, and it seems like a lot of OCN forgets that outside of our small enthusiast community, not everyone has 2500k's and 2600k's cranking at 4.5+GHz.
^^This. I will most likely purchase an FX series processor. I dont run crossfire and I don't have the need for running benchmarks (sorry it kind of reminds me of some kind of self serving asexual act) Jokes aside. This processor is still a viable upgrade path. Im sure this will run Battlefield 3 perfectly fine. (and Space Empires 4 when I feel like ive had my fill of high def graphics)
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