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Global Warming is crap. The globe warms and cools all the time. It's called weather.

However, the real important issues are:

Deforestation
Ozone depletion
Water/Soil pollution

That's all there is to it.

All this global warming crap is an excuse to get people to do things for someone else's agenda.
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Global Warming is crap. The globe warms and cools all the time. It's called weather.
Learn the difference between weather and climate; the difference between global and local; and the meaning of average.
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It is always nice too see independent validation of scientific theories. Unfortunately another scientific study will do nothing to change the minds of people who have chosen to ignore (and not believe) other scientific studies.
 
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It's going to be interesting to see a great migration of people from coastal cities moving inland as the sea levels rise.


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Originally Posted by linkin93 View Post
All this global warming crap is an excuse to get people to do things for someone else's agenda.
Yes, global warming awareness: that agenda is so sinister it's got Hitler written all over it.
Edited by quentin - 10/20/11 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by linkin93 View Post
Global Warming is crap. The globe warms and cools all the time. It's called weather.

However, the real important issues are:

Deforestation
Ozone depletion
Water/Soil pollution

That's all there is to it.

All this global warming crap is an excuse to get people to do things for someone else's agenda.
Way to ignore all of the data and pull your own conclusion out of your ass... Although I am with you in a way. I'm against carbon credits and many other scams that governments are trying to impose regarding global warming.

I'm all for lowering emissions, but there are many way to do this. I'm not too impressed with some of the ways that have been proposed.

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It's going to be interesting to see a great migration of coastal cities moving inland as the sea levels rise.
I think it would be interesting to see them adapt and become water cities like Venice.
Edited by Epitope - 10/20/11 at 7:58pm
    
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I've been doing a paper for school.

The more I read and research, the more I learn this...


-Global warming at this time is too early to call, we need to wait decades to see if the base temperature of the earth's actually be being affected.
In the ice age, or other worldwide climate changes, the change in temperature took hundreds of years. That happened naturally, so assuming that we are affecting this temperature change is really hard to say.

-The ozone layer is a MUCH more immediate threat and issue

-Pollution and the effects of the chemicals on people and wildlife are more immediate issues.




People need to know that in order to call this a actual change in earth's temperature, we need to see if the change keeps going up.


Now, I'm not saying "Go, pollute! Go piss on a deer or dump waste into rivers or burn your old tires!"

I'm just saying global warming, at this time, is nothing we should be calling for certain.

But, there are many other environmental issues that are real and PROVEN that need to be taken care of. Primarily in 2nd and 3rd world countries or very industrious places like China.


/rant


Edited by noak - 10/20/11 at 7:58pm
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No, not really.

No one is worried about the planet getting so hot or cold as to be uninhabitable. That's not at all what concern over excessive global warming is coming from.

A vastly more subtle change in temperature can wreak havoc with the ecology and traditional weather patterns, which will cause numerous problems (especially from an economic perspective). A few C here and there is a big deal.

Also, extreme climates are nothing new. I've lived in places, in the continental US, where people regularly died when the gas or electricity went out and they could not heat their homes. Oregon gets pretty cold doesn't it?
well then i'm not THAT far off.......the economic damage would be the tip of the iceberg.......i listed extreme temperatures because of obvious reasons........there is a recording of an ice age........it is obvious that it is responsible for killing life......core samples have proven this, we just don't have details........and there are evidence of extremly high temperatures in rocks throughout the world......but like i said "we don't have a human recorded event" because well, everything died.....this is not going to be as sudden as jumping into lava or liquid nitrogen......very gradual, spanning over centuries........sigh......sometimes i wish i lived as long as an Asari
    
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I don't find this graph that surprising, we've known the earth is warming for a while. It's the man-made part that is under scrutiny. Most likely however, the warming climate can be attributed to the natural cycles of the sun.

What I want to know, and which I didn't see stated in the article is that as time has passed, we have placed sensors in more and more locations. If those locations were always warm, but were never counted before we got measurements there, that would naturally skew the graph upward as our sensor density increases.
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Global Warming is crap. The globe warms and cools all the time. It's called weather.

However, the real important issues are:

Deforestation
Ozone depletion
Water/Soil pollution

That's all there is to it.

All this global warming crap is an excuse to get people to do things for someone else's agenda.
It isn't weather...it is climate change. Kind of a big deal

I just hate this...there is all this evidence that shows there is a rapid global climate change in progress and people just say its normal...its happened before. Yes, it has happened before, but each time it has happened there has been geological evidence of something major happening. Like massive grand scale volcanic eruoptions or massive plankton die off in the oceans...possible metorite impacts...that sort of thing. Has any of that happened lately? There is evidence of slow gradual changes that happen on their own with no catalyst, but the temp has changed more in the last 50 years than it has in the last 1000. The gradual changes occure over 10,000 years or more.

Global warming has too much evidence for it to be tossed out. Though what I really want to know is what will happen. Stop trying to figure out if it exist or not as that is undenable...just figure out what we are facing. I think a good 5°C temp increase across the globe would be nice. If a creature can't adapt to that...oh well, sorry but take your complaint to Darwin. Coastal cities might loose some realestate as well I guess, but its not like we have run out of land for people to live yet.

the real kicker is that it is estimated we are going to start running out of crude oil in about a 100 years or so...coal will last a heck of a lot longer, though. So we will be forced to remove a big cause of green house gases and the emission from coal can be more easily kept in check. So I don't know how much more damage we can do.
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I don't find this graph that surprising, we've known the earth is warming for a while. It's the man-made part that is under scrutiny. Most likely however, the warming climate can be attributed to the natural cycles of the sun.

What I want to know, and which I didn't see stated in the article is that as time has passed, we have placed sensors in more and more locations. If those locations were always warm, but were never counted before we got measurements there, that would naturally skew the graph upward as our sensor density increases.
I imagine that effect should be over by now as the surface of the earth is pretty well covered by now. There are also infrared satellites that can measure the entire surface of the planet as a whole now.
    
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