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LOL. 360 on fattened console. 720 in picture. 1080 in article. PS4 Emulation? Really? Oh and built in kinect sensor... so essentially the console would HAVE to be on the top or below your TV... Right. Anyone who falls for this needs a brainscan. STAT!
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You obviously never compared Oblivion on the platforms, PC was better from the time we could actually max it out. (ie. 7950GX2 or 8800GTS/8800GTX)
Oblivion on 360 and a high-end PC looked near identical. ES4 came out over 6 months before G80 and there really wasn't a game that could push hardware until the following year(Crysis).



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Eh, it's starting to happen now, it's a cycle, around the end of the current gen consoles lives PC games start to really show off their grunt, then the consoles catch up and it begins again. (Happened with the PS1 and PS2)
Indeed!


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They did not, most gaming PCs had 1GB or 2GB in 2005/2006, even my budget Athlon XP/6800GS system had 1GB...And the devs had to fight for 512MB in the 360.
The highest end GPU from that era only had 512-768MB of RAM where 768MB was an absolute rarity. Expect next gen consoles to ship with 2-4GB of RAM.


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I don't see either MS or Sony going too big on the hardware, they did last generation and most of it didn't get used well and just cost them heaps compared to Nintendo.
Both consoles are pretty much maxed out by developers because it only takes 2-3 game generations for it to occur, or at least that's been the tradition and has been espoused by different developers.

PS3 has a higher theoretical maximum than the 360, but since Microsoft has far superior dev tools in XNA and Visual Studio, they're able to maintain visual parity and even come out a head in many games.

Next gen, the Xbox will be even closer to what can be found in the PC space. MSFT originally wanted to go with an OoO chip but IBM couldn't deliver in time.

Just think of the GPU that can fit within a 200w TDP in 2 years. Expect a high-end RV990 or a mid-range RV1090.



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Yes, there are some games that uses most of the raw PC power. Crysis, even it came out 4 years ago is still the best looking game out there. Not many games came even close to Crysis because of many console or PC ports. Consoles are more popular and most game developers mainly worked on consoles' graphics level. No games ever challenged SLI GTX 580 on 1080p, let alone the next generation of GPU. I don't think Metro 2033 which is not well optimized don't even challenge 580s.
What you're saying is not consistent and is very contradictory. Why would developers target enthusiast hardware(GTX 580) when the overwhelming majority are not enthusiast. If consoles are 'holding back PC' then your very own platform mates are holding back PC as well.

What's more is that it takes ~3 years to develop a game from start to finish and we get new PC hardware every 18 months. How is it viable for a developer to cater to the ever changing PC hardware landscape?

The issue is infinitely regressive. It's the same nonsense regurgitated by people who want "future proofing."
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I wonder what kind of hardware it will have, more memory?, maybe ATI 7xxx GPU or 2 GPU? ? probably DX11
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Ha, probably won't be DX11.

Consoles get zero attention from me, but it would be cool if all the games were on USB flash.
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Definitely lol'd at the picture.
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its just a warped 360 slim? Nothing to be concerned about.....
Concerned? What? I hate the whole console genre, and hope it would die.
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The highest end GPU from that era only had 512-768MB of RAM where 768MB was an absolute rarity. Expect next gen consoles to ship with 2-4GB of RAM.
He was talking about system RAM (Not VRAM.)
I imagine 2gb of DDR4 memory would be used since it should be releasing soon.
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Just in time for Halo 5! /sarcasm
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PS2 days were the best.
Nope SNES days were the best

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I've seen better, I play with better. Consoles graphics are still just fine IMO.
Same here

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The N64 had a VRAM expansion pack. That did not sell too well nor did many devs code for it.
Actually, it did do pretty well and it didn't have to sell well since most were bundled with DK64 and that game sold great. There were quite a few other games that needed it for high res or that just plain required it to play.
     
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Concerned? What? I hate the whole console genre, and hope it would die.
Keep hoping
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