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Zowie MiCO vs SteelSeries Kana or other mouse for Starcraft 2?

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I tried searching for this. But I'm still having hard time deciding which mouse I should go for. I know mouse preference is personal, but I'm looking for the mouse that gives the most advantage in Sc2 and upcoming DotA 2.

I'm a palm gripper myself but I realized that fingertip/claw grip gives more advantage in RTS games. So I want to adapt to those grip styles. I'm not worried about RSI since I'm not going to play games 24/7 and I will be using a difference mouse when I'm not gaming anyway.

Although not critical, these seems to be the desired features in mouse for RTS:
- Optical laser
- Ambidextrous design(e.g. LMO, best shape for RTS?)
- Very light
- High DPI setting
- No acceleration or prediction
- Low lift-off distance

Of all the threads I read these mouses seem to be most prefered for RTS games:
1.) Zowie MiCO
2.) Logitech G9x
3.) Razer Abyssus
4.) Razer Deathadder
5.) Logitech MX518/G400
6.) Cooler Master Storm Spawn
7.) SteelSeries Xai/Sensei
8.) SteelSeries Kana

Many believe that the Zowie MiCO is the closest to perfect mouse for RTS. Mainly because it has an identical shape to the popular LMO and it has little to no acceleration or prediction. The only issue is that the 1600DPI is emulated so only up to 800DPI is usable. But I'm still leaning towards Zowie MiCO right now.

But at the same time, the upcoming SteelSeries Kana is getting positive comments as well. So I might wait until that is released.

I have a few questions:

Q1.) What is the minimum DPI to comfortably play Starcraft 2 in 1920x1080 resolution?
Q2.) Should I get SteelSeries Qck or Qck Mini?
Q3.) Are there any other upcoming mouse that might be better than Zowie MiCO besides SteelSeries Kana?
Q4.) Has anyone tried most of the mouse that I listed? If so, what do you prefer out of all of them? Can you rate them from 1 - 10 in terms of performance and comfort?
Q5.) Do you think SteelSeries Kana is going better than Zowie MiCO?

Any help or opinion is appreciated, cheers.

This is what I'm currently using:
Keyboard: Filco Majestouch 2 Cherry MX Brown Tenkey-less
Mouse: Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse
Mouse Pad: Getting either SteelSeries QcK or Qck Mini
post #2 of 6
The mico is pretty good and 800 dpi is perfectly fine at 1920x1080. Koreans use 400-1000, for example. If you want to adapt to a new grip style then you can certainly try the spawn since it works well at 800dpi/1000hz. Don't bother trying 500hz on it unless they further update their firmware.

I used a mico for a bit and it does have some noticeable prediction albeit lower than many others.

I've tried all those mice but the kana and although I won't rate ALL of them. I'll say try to avoid the mx518, xai and g9x. The abyssus doesn't have a 900 dpi option and needs a goliathus control pad to go with it since it jitters the least on it.
post #3 of 6
The mico is a great mouse, although I find the mouse buttons too hard to press and the mousefeet too small
post #4 of 6
Been using a mico for SC2, eve, and cs 1.6 since it came out. No issues here.

I use 800dpi for most everything @ 1920x1200 and its plenty fast enough for 2 displays.
    
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I'm a huge sc2 fan and currently playing about 5 games a day at diamond level.

Here are my 2cents worth. I have tried several of the mice you mentioned.

Q1.) What is the minimum DPI to comfortably play Starcraft 2 in 1920x1080 resolution?
800- 1200 imo

Q2.) Should I get SteelSeries Qck or Qck Mini?
I prefer hard surface pads. Never going back to cloth. YMMV

Q3.) Are there any other upcoming mouse that might be better than Zowie MiCO besides SteelSeries Kana?

Ive tried the Mico and returned it. It was way too small ( i have big hands and claw grip) the buttons are nice though and the mouse feet glide well with very little surface contact. That said, I prefer the size of the Xai/Kinzu series so I'm really looking forward to the Kana. I believe the Kana also fixes a major problem with Xai (my current mouse) and that is the RMB not registering when you click at the edge of the button. This happens because after 2 years of usage, the Xai's surface is losing it's firmness.

Looking at the shape of the buttons for the Kana as well as the protruding edges near the scrollwheel convinces me that this design will keep the firmness of the button surface throughout the whole area.

Q4.) Has anyone tried most of the mouse that I listed? If so, what do you prefer out of all of them? Can you rate them from 1 - 10 in terms of performance and comfort?

My ratings below is based off claw gripping and twitch movements. I also have a preference for ambidexterous mice.

1.) Zowie MiCO- 7
If this mouse was 20% larger, I would have given it a 8.5

3.) Razer Abyssus- 6
Really weird buttons on this mouse. Plus the sides are glossy and I have sweaty fingers.

4.) Razer Deathadder - 5
Too big and ergonomically designed for right handers that it doesnt help claw grippers as much.

5.) Logitech MX518/G400 - 5

Too tall.
6.) Cooler Master Storm Spawn-7.5

Very nice surface. Needs a lot of time to get used to it. One of the best buttons. If only the shape was a bit more "universal", this mouse would get 8.5. I used this for close to half a year and switched back to Xai. Everytime i used the Spawn, it feels like I need at least a few games before I warm up to it. Hence Ive decided to stop using it... the Xai is more familiar right from the getgo.

7.) SteelSeries Xai/Sensei - 9 (xai) 7 (sensei)

Sensei- Reviews say the surface don't affect sweaty palms but they do bother me. The buttons feel less firm and less tactile than the Xai. Too much fluff too..with all the bling. Expensive....


Xai- Great surface, nice tactile buttons (im not talking about middle mouse since i don't use that for sc2). Very easy to get used to its shape. If the Xai had the buttons of the Spawn, I would be a very happy zergling.
8.) SteelSeries Kana - ?


Q5.) Do you think SteelSeries Kana is going better than Zowie MiCO?

Yes. (at least I hope so!)
post #6 of 6
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Wow thanks for answering all the questions! That was very informative and I appreciate it biggrin.gif
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