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How should I compare them then, if you could explain me? I just want to be a bit more savy about the cards.
You compare clocks within same model video cards. There are a lot of variables that affect it shaders, clocks, the architecture etc. If you want to compare them simply go and see some benches.

Firstly the GTX 460 is a last generation card and its not even the highest end model of the 400 series. In the other hand the GTX 580 is a newer generation and its a flagship model of the 500 series. The GTX 480 would be more comparable to the GTX 580.


Take a look at these benchmarks to see what I am talking about.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/313?vs=305
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How should I compare them then, if you could explain me? I just want to be a bit more savy about the cards.
OK look at it this way with Nvidia cards, they release a new generation of cards about every 3 years. Each generation the improve performance, clock speed, memory, cooling from anywhere from 10 to 30% compared to the last generation

One important thing to know when upgrading is die shrink, next generation the 600 series will be 28mm. So going from 40mm process you would hope to "maybe" see a 20% improvement due to die shrink.

AMD & Nvidia usually 2-3 generations per die shrink, 580 is the second of femi I believe?

So basically a 580 gtx is a faster cooler & better performing improved version of a 480gtx. Thats why you would get a 580 gtx
    
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You compare clocks within same model video cards. There are a lot of variables that affect it shaders, clocks, the architecture etc. If you want to compare them simply go and see some benches.

Firstly the GTX 460 is a last generation card and its not even the highest end model of the 400 series. In the other hand the GTX 580 is a newer generation and its a flagship model of the 500 series. The GTX 480 would be more comparable to the GTX 580.


Take a look at these benchmarks to see what I am talking about.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/313?vs=305
Oh sry, i actually meant the 480 ofc. otherwise this wouldnt make any sense at all. ^^
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Oh sry, i actually meant the 480 ofc. otherwise this wouldnt make any sense at all. ^^
Take a look at the benches the GTX 580 pulls a ahead, not by much in some games. But take into consideration the GTX 480 Runs waaaay hotter and consumes more power. Therefor you could OC the GTX 580 more

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/309?vs=305
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One of the takeaways from this thread:

"A GTX 580 is a waste @ 1680x1050!"

Many people upgrade piecemeal. I'll use my 22" monitor for another couple of months with the GTX 580 before getting a larger monitor. In the meantime I'll turn up every quality setting in my games and fiddle with the Nvidia Control Panel to effectively raise my resolution (and make use of the cards power). There are several games I've already discovered that the GTX 560 I bought (and am returning) can't max all settings @ 1680x1050.

I've got the money for the video card now (and Skyrim is just around the corner!). I'll take me another six months to build a new PC. I just want to get the fun part first.
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EVGA has the best warranty in the business, why not protect that hefty investment?
I just don't see how a lot of you believe this. Think about it, after you jump through their little hoop of registering (if you don't, there goes your warranty), you're left with a warranty that dies with you. However, with MSI and ASUS, you have a 3 year warranty that moves with the card and doesn't even need a receipt. So I ask you, do you honestly believe a majority of GTX580 buyers keep a video card for over 3 years or would they most likely sell it before then and benefit from selling it with a warranty. I'll take an MSI or ASUS over an EVGA any day of the week. If a three your old card dies, it probably has an actual worth of roughly $50 (8800gtx), so it's not like you're risking anything.
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[QUOTE=sccr64472;15397920]I just don't see how a lot of you believe this. Think about it, after you jump through their little hoop of registering (if you don't, there goes your warranty)*snip*[ /QUOTE]

A 2-3 min registration is hardly hoops. Even if you don't register, with a receipt you still get a year. A couple of 580's will last more than a few years. Your argument with lower end cards would have more wieght.

It would depend on each person as it will vary. Where I intend to hand down my card to a family member, that cards warranty will be invaluable to me. Not so much to someone else who is going to sell in a year I'd concur.

EVGA encourages over clocking and allows for water blocking as long as when you return it, it's in original form. Some vendors don't allow for either as it voids warranty.
     
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