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Not sure if this has already been addressed.

But I was looking at the new 22nm Intel roadmaps and I wondered:

The CPU dies are shrinking, but are the physical packages shrinking? I mean looking at my 45nm Phenom II and the new AMD Bulldozer at 32nm, they look like they are the same size!

I know that those are just the heat shields and the actual CPU is under it.

But are CPU packages shrinking with their dies? And wouldn't shrinking the package be better by taking up less mobo space and such?
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What is shrinking is the size of the transistors. The difference between 45nm and 32/22nm can only be seen under a microscope.

(by the way, those aren't heat shields; they are integrated heatspreaders)
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Quote:
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What is shrinking is the size of the transistors. The difference between 45nm and 32/22nm can only be seen under a microscope.

(by the way, those aren't heat shields; they are integrated heatspreaders)
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LOL

That's the first time I've ever seen that!
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LOL

That's the first time I've ever seen that!
came up with it about 10 minutes ago, glad you like it
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Quote:
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came up with it about 10 minutes ago
Oh, ok. hehe I like it a lot!
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You have to remember, also, that shrinking dies are usually hand in hand with higher transistor counts.
    
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Quote:
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You have to remember, also, that shrinking dies are usually hand in hand with higher transistor counts.
theres only 2 words i really want to hear about ivy bridge when its reviewed.

less heat and more power.
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If the actual size of the CPU was shrinking as well then it would cost a fortune every time a CPU is released. You would have to buy new motherboards and whatnot. That and while the transistors are shrinking then are squeezing more of them into the CPU.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post
If the actual size of the CPU was shrinking as well then it would cost a fortune every time a CPU is released. You would have to buy new motherboards and whatnot. That and while the transistors are shrinking then are squeezing more of them into the CPU.
What does a motherboard have to do with the physical size of a CPU?


The physical size of a CPU die is primarily a function of number of transistors and lithography process.


http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/t...-fx8150-tested
8 Core Bulldozer on a 32nm with ~2B transistors is 315mm^2.
4 Core Sandy Bridge on a 32nm with 995M transistors is 216mm^2.
Edited by DuckieHo - 10/21/11 at 9:20am
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