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As the title says, I'm looking to upgrade some parts in my old Packard Bell iMedia, which eventually became my current sig rig.

Long Explanation:

I will use it as a spare second PC at LANs, and I will also be taking it to University next year, unless I get a laptop.

Current Specs:
AMD Athlon II x3 425 @ 2.7GHz
2 x 2GB RAM OEM - Samsung DDR2
Ati Radeon HD4350
WD Green 500GB
500W Cit PSU
Phoenix DTX Motherboard
TP-Link PCIe 1x Wireless N card.

This is as it was when it was bought around christmas 2009, apart from the wirless card, Power Supply and HDD.
I bought the PSU to replace the stock 250W, when I didn't know anything about PC Hardware, so naturally, it's junk. tongue.gif

I'm looking to replace the PSU, Motherboard and eventually, the GPU.

The case only holds SFX Power Supply's, so My choice is very limited, but after looking around the best choice seems to be:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/450w-psu-silverstone-strider-sst-st45sf-85-eff-80-plus-bronze-eps-12v-quiet-fan-sfx

I will attach some pics of the case so you can see what I have to work with, but it has 2 expansion slots.
Supposedly this is 'DTX', but this doesn't seem to exist outside of the OEM world.

I'm therefore looking to you guys for some help smile.gif
mITX seems to be the way to go
Anyone have any recommendations for an AM2+/AM3 mITX board?
Preferably wireless onboard. smile.gif

My only concern is the front panel connections, which don't appear to be standard. I've attached a pic so you guys can see. smile.gif

So to sum up:
What PSU?
What Board?
What RAM? (If needed)

I won't get round to this for a while, but I like to know a lot in advance what I need to get tongue.gif

Thanks for reading this far, and thanks in advance for any help thumb.gif
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I dont think you will get a board that will go in there properly. I've never heard of a 2 slot board before. mITX might fit, measure out the holes. If it doesn't, you might as well get a new case, it isn't worth the hassle modifying this one.

If you absolutely have to go for that size psu, dont load it up too much. Card wise, certainly no more than something like a 5770. Don't overclock the cpu on this either, the board might not take it on a big quad. (even the full size boards seem to blow vrms all the time)

Front panel connectors have been put on a header, so won't work with another board if the layout of the pins is different. See if there is an old case you can cannibalise for the headers, cut the ends off, then splice them to these if you know how to do that.
     
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post #4 of 15
Measure the holes and the dimension of your motherboard. Mini-ITX can fit inside of your case provided the dimension and holes are matched.
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post #5 of 15
Corsair or Seasonic or XFX PSU. 550Watts +
Asus, GB, Asrock or MSI mATX mobo. Theyre all roughly good.
4-8GB of Corsair or OCZ ram with the best specs that fits your budget.

Are you keeping the AMD AthlonII 425 cpu?? If you can afford it I'd recommend something like an Intel 2500K or an AMD 955 Black Edition.
Edited by SMK - 10/21/11 at 10:50am
    
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post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks a lot for the speedy replies smile.gif

Just done some measuring, looks like Mini ITX will fit just fine, So I'd like to stick with this case smile.gif

I'll be keeping my Athlon II, until I upgrade my main rig, then I'll pass my Phenom II down to this build.

This is only meant to be for light gaming, so I wasn't planning on much higher than a 5750 or 6570 smile.gif
I also am unlikely to do any overclocking on this build.

Should the Silverstone PSU cover this ok?
It's the best I can find in that form factor, unless anyone else has any alternatives smile.gif

As far as boards go, this looks good:
[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-M4A88T-I-Deluxe-Micro-ITX-Motherboard/dp/B003XLYAVI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2LZ3S1U3SRD8C&colid=2LDTQVI87D03M"]Asus AM3 M4A88T-I Deluxe Micro-ITX Motherboard 5200MT/S: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[/ame]

Although it is rather expensive...
Looks like I'll also need Laptop RAM with that board.

Does anyone have any alternatives?
Edited by Kyronn94 - 10/21/11 at 12:35pm
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post #7 of 15
Silverstone makes good power supplies as well.

That board looks good, but make sure you have good airflow over those pwms

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Yes, the psu will be fine for that. I doubt you will find better in that size, i dont hear about them very often.

Is there really any need to upgrade the board if there is nothing wrong with it? Its the same socket, so you wont gain anything by changing it. And you save a bit of effort with the front panel.
     
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Originally Posted by alltoasters;15397706 
Yes, the psu will be fine for that. I doubt you will find better in that size, i dont hear about them very often.

Is there really any need to upgrade the board if there is nothing wrong with it? Its the same socket, so you wont gain anything by changing it. And you save a bit of effort with the front panel.

he needs to change it, it has an AGP slot instead of PCI-E
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The OS will likely be OEM windows which is linked to the mobo, so you'll be needing a new copy of windows if you get a new mobo.

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