Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD Motherboards › Help troubleshooting: Bad Motherboard?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Help troubleshooting: Bad Motherboard?

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
Hi, I've been having intermittent problems with my desktop build that I've had running since January 2011. I'm posting/editing right now on a Linux USB/iPad since apparently my desktop isn't stable with or without my HDs! Yargh!

Currently I have a
  • Phenom II 955 BE
  • Asus M4A77TD
  • Hyper 212+
  • HIS 5850 iCoolerV
  • OCZ StealthXStream II 600w
  • OCZ Vertex 30gb
  • Samsung HD322GJ
  • All hooked up in a Fractal R3 (breadboarded for the past few weeks)

List of symptoms
  1. (1st time) Had a momentary freeze for about a minute in BIOS this morning
  2. Occasional failures of MemTests with TWO different sets of RAM @ their rated settings (Both G.Skill)
    It would sometimes give buttloads of errors and sometimes I'd let it run overnight and it'd be golden 12-16 passes.

    These next two appeared in July of 2011, about 6 months after I built my computer. It would refuse to post for a short period of time maybe once every month. In response I would spend hours reseating RAM, switching which slots it was in, resetting to stock settings, clearing CMOS, eventually breadboarding to test for shorts. Unfortunately none of my troubleshooting was conclusive since the problem disappeared and hid under a rock for a month or so then it popped up again.
  3. Irregular spasms of BSODS
  4. ^above accompanied by refusal to post under manual (stock) settings and all auto sometimes as well.
  5. Today I've had AMD Driver failing and BSODS every few minutes into windows

1. I doubt it.
I doubt my PSU is delivering bad voltages since whenever I check the HWMonitor or in bios, they're fairly tight as they were on the hardwaresecrets review of the SxS II.

2. Not really.
I doubt it's the RAM since I bought ANOTHER set of RAM and still same symptoms persist. Sometimes having 1 stick would make it post and I would think that was it! But then I would mix up another variation and then the problem couldn't be consistently replicated.

3. I think Probably?
I think it's the motherboard since I haven't been able to reproduce any sort of errors on a consistent basis via switching the slots the RAM is seated in nor swapping out the sticks themselves.

4. I think Possibly?
I think it COULD possibly be my Vertex 30gb but I babysit it, let it idle to garbage collect, went through all the OCZforum guides and went through some headaches on my own and thought I resolved all problems. Should I clean install windows on my spindle Samsung and try it there? Or just go ahead and RMA the board?
================================================== ======================



I wanted 2nd opinions before I RMA'd my board since it would mean no computer for 2 weeks plus. iPad browsing is infuriating for a normal computer. What does this sound like?

If you guys say it's for sure my board then I'm of the mind to set it on fire and throw it out the 3rd floor window of our apartment since it has been SO HARD TO TROUBLESHOOT.

Thanks for your time and your reading.
Byron

*EDIT: DA FREAK. Within 10 minutes of me posting this, my system blackscreend with all my HDs not attached booting into a Linux USB stick and right now I'm trying to get it to post (im gettin good at shorting the 2 reset pins.) So I'm 100% sure it's not my vertex 30gb. Oh the headaches!
Edited by FlashFir - 10/21/11 at 4:28pm
post #2 of 5
Good voltages from a PSU don't necessarily indicate it's working correctly.

More Info
Gutted P4
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q8200 M1 @ 3.30Ghz 1.250V (1.18V MCH) 24/7 GA-EP45-UD3R Sapphire 4850 Non-Ref Blue PCB 2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC 
Hard DriveMonitorPower
2x160GB Seagate Samsung 226BW 550W Antec Neo-HE 
  hide details  
Reply
Gutted P4
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q8200 M1 @ 3.30Ghz 1.250V (1.18V MCH) 24/7 GA-EP45-UD3R Sapphire 4850 Non-Ref Blue PCB 2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC 
Hard DriveMonitorPower
2x160GB Seagate Samsung 226BW 550W Antec Neo-HE 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donutey View Post
Good voltages from a PSU don't necessarily indicate it's working correctly.

More Info
Granted. Even for their own reviews hardwaresecrets is pretty honest. In anycase I can't practically do anything in regards to that because right now the only psu I could borrow from a friend is this PS480D cough I mean BS480D which is so light and flimsy I am not going to plug it into my mobo. I doubt I know anyone that has an extra PSU sitting in the closet.

But what do you think about the problem? Is my problem more symptomatic of a bad power supply or a bad motherboard?
post #4 of 5
Hmm, it certainly sounds like what was happening when I had a generic PSU die (ability to boot and stability slowly decreasing over time), took forever to figure out, however I've never had a motherboard die...

I can sympathize with your frustration though

On a side note, have you checked temps and CPU voltages as well? Bulging/bleeding capacitors?
Gutted P4
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q8200 M1 @ 3.30Ghz 1.250V (1.18V MCH) 24/7 GA-EP45-UD3R Sapphire 4850 Non-Ref Blue PCB 2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC 
Hard DriveMonitorPower
2x160GB Seagate Samsung 226BW 550W Antec Neo-HE 
  hide details  
Reply
Gutted P4
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q8200 M1 @ 3.30Ghz 1.250V (1.18V MCH) 24/7 GA-EP45-UD3R Sapphire 4850 Non-Ref Blue PCB 2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC 
Hard DriveMonitorPower
2x160GB Seagate Samsung 226BW 550W Antec Neo-HE 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 5
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donutey View Post
Hmm, it certainly sounds like what was happening when I had a generic PSU die (ability to boot and stability slowly decreasing over time), took forever to figure out, however I've never had a motherboard die...

I can sympathize with your frustration though

On a side note, have you checked temps and CPU voltages as well? Bulging/bleeding capacitors?
Argh stupid PSU always the ninja problem. I hope mine isn't. Sigh. RAM Test just failed on all auto settings (Autosets to CAS 11). Not sure how much voltage it gives on auto.


Capacitors: Yessir. I've been breadboarding past few weeks and I've inspected the mobo. Unfortunately (only unfortunate because troubleshooting! HAH) haven't seen any.
Voltages: Been checking already since before there was a problem. I ran on 1.3875 @ 1.4 forever after backing off from overclocking which I stopped once stability problems came up. Tangent Question: VRM/Mofsets: do they get more strained if you just OC via multiplier and DO NOT touch the cpu voltages?
Temperatures: Yessir. I'm a pretty compulsive checker of temperatures with HWMonitor. Check it before and after I'm done gaming (tf2 6v6 is the way to go!).
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD Motherboards
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD Motherboards › Help troubleshooting: Bad Motherboard?