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Just upgraded to one of the top coolers and there is no improvement at all
http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...ht-archon.html
Reaplied TIM once, everythin is fine. What's going on?
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post #2 of 17
what tim are you using, what fan(s) and what are your temps?
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post #3 of 17
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Phenom II X4 955BE @4.26GHz 1.504v with Thorr's hammer (Gelid Wing 12PL push/ Noctua NF-S12B FLX pull) was getting ~60C under Prime95. The same temps is using Archon and this fan setup. Using default TY-140 I'm getting even higher temps. Using Chill Factor III.
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post #4 of 17
try adding another fan to archon or do same fan setuo as you had to compare temps
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post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
Nothing to do else now looking for second good 140mm fan.
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post #6 of 17
Can you check if the Archon's base is damaged or is too bended? You also used CF3 with the previous heatsink, didn't you?
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post #7 of 17
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With Hammer I was using Noctua NT-H1 TIM, but also retested Archon with NT-H1 and the result is the same.
No, it's not damaged, I will check if it not too bended. Also would try to unscrew fixing mechanism, maybe there is some space between heatsink and CPU because of bending, cause I screwed it very tightly.
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post #8 of 17
Hi,
Your not going tobe happy i'm afraid.
sadly you have swapped your cooler for another cooler that has the same performance.
My first instinct on seeing both these coolers was they look like they give the same performance, had a quick google for you and found a benchmark with both your coolers and i was correct in thinking that you have fluffed up. http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_rece...ona/12896.html
(I done the same a few years back and swapped one cooler for another and had the exact same temps, i was gutted but i learned from that mistake and the next cooler i got was the nh-d14

Edited by OcSlave - 10/22/11 at 2:33am
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post #9 of 17
make a foto of TIM spread
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post #10 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkeeyee View Post
make a foto of TIM spread
makes no difference dude, both coolers are of similar performance, there's nothing that can be done here to improve the outcome, only way to fix this is to sadly buy another cooler!
I'm talking from experience aswell as showing proof in teh link.
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