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A lot of people like to be around 60 fps (me included). Also keep in mind the top end graphics (ultra) weren't even implemented in the beta .
You wont be seeing a 60fps avg in BF3 on Ultra with those 6970s.

When testing with 2 6970s @ 940mhz core, I was dropping down into the 30s on Caspian. To not drop below 50 fps, I added a 3rd 6970 and it was absolutely a blast to play on a 120hz monitor.

Ideally, 3 6970s is the sweetspot for this game, which is pretty ****ty for most of us (myself included, since I've sold my 6970s since, and I'm gaming with 560 TIs x2 @1ghz)

I'm considering trading my dual 560 TIs for 470s that have confirmed to be OC'd to 840mhz because of the extra Vram and performance that I believe I'll get with the 470s when OC'd to 840 core, AND the fact that I can Tri-SLI them in the future which I can't with the 560 TIs...
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Are you sure you had updated drivers? On the beta with everything highest settings (Except I can't remember if I ran on 2 or 4 xAA), I was getting 40-50 on Caspian with a single 6970. I rarely went below 35 anywhere in the beta. There were many times I was over 60 as well. One of the reasons I'm adding a 2nd 6970 is for when the game is released and higher graphics come out.

I played the beta on:
1090t 3.2ghz
1 6970 (No OC)
27" Samsung @ 1920x1080
16 gb 1333 RAM

On that note, I noticed a hugely varied range with performance in the BF3 beta. Higher end machines were getting lower performance than expected and some lower end machines performing well. Seemed to be a hit or miss with the beta performance. I guess we'll see how everything performs in release .

Another note (Yes I edit a lot ), is that I've heard crossfire didn't do too great with the beta. I know a couple people that turned off crossfire and performed as well or even better.
Edited by TiFFman - 10/21/11 at 8:30pm
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Also ran a 460 on High at 1920x1200. It was mid-30s at 840/2000 OC but I bumped it down to 1650x1080 for another 5-10fps improvement, putting me in the mid-40s with dips into the 30s which was more than playable for a $100 card.
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Im sorry dude dont mean to say this is inaccurate but it is. THERE IS NO WAY you played that at ultra with that monitor in your rig at its native resolution. I had a gts450 and my gtx560ti is way ahead of it in performance and ultra at 1920x1080 in the beta game lagged too much to really play. Sure I ran it, probably at average of 10-12fps though lol

keep in mind I had a 560ti at 1920x1080 play the beta on the setting below ultra, it ran very smooth and looked nice still. Im not sure what the difference is but a lot of people like the 460's since they are cheaper than the 560's and very similar.

I want to play that on ultra so I just ordered another 560ti to sli. Waiting on newegg so I can will call it today I hope!! 1 hour left before they close it lol
From what I understand:

The main differences are that the 5xx series are much less power-hungry than their 4xx counterparts. This means they generate less heat - and in turn theoretically will have more head room to OC.

The 5xx series handle tessellation better than the 4xx. Dx11 is very hit and miss though. In Crysis 2 you'll take a significant performance hit, for graphical enhancements that you literally have to stand around looking at floors and walls to notice.

On the other hand - Dragon Age 2 Dx11 and Dx9 look like completely different games. And the performance hit isn't nearly as bad. Needs a lot of work still.
    
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Well as of now, the 460 is one generation removed from the latest, no need to upgrade so fast, save your 460, get another one, sli and overclock both with msi's afterburner, and you'll do quite well in BF3
Yup.

Make sure you buy a solid new mobo. One that handles SLI and CPU overclocks well.

Then you can essentially start building an entirely new rig around it. Starting with the mobo and 560 to SLI for now.

I'm hoping my SLI 560s will last me 2 years or so. Of course it's always a gamble with PC tech -- but so far they perform very well. Credit goes to my mobo also for handling both 560s and 1100T OCed for gaming.
    
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that graphic is wrong ???

I was getting 35 fps with my card in the beta, all options to high at 1080p
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I say wait and save your money. BF3 is going to be a hell of a lot different when it comes out. If you really want to have the amazing maxxed out settings spend the money on sli your 480 or get a 570/80. doesn't hurt to just wait and see what fps u get.
Actually best advice here, beta graghics were probably lower than actual game, not to mention drivers were in beta for nvidia and who knows what the bf3 team might have optimised, etc. The game will probably play very different

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that graphic is wrong ???

I was getting 35 fps with my card in the beta, all options to high at 1080p
1080 (1920x1080) is less than the gragh

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From what I understand:

The main differences are that the 5xx series are much less power-hungry than their 4xx counterparts. This means they generate less heat - and in turn theoretically will have more head room to OC.

The 5xx series handle tessellation better than the 4xx. Dx11 is very hit and miss though. In Crysis 2 you'll take a significant performance hit, for graphical enhancements that you literally have to stand around looking at floors and walls to notice.

On the other hand - Dragon Age 2 Dx11 and Dx9 look like completely different games. And the performance hit isn't nearly as bad. Needs a lot of work still.
Yeah your right, I dont monitor my fps very much in crysis2 but I play on ultra with hi-res and all and its not that noticeable but I leave it on since it feels playable. I know im droping into the 20's fps though, that will be fixed monday when my 2nd card comes in
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This should unequivocally answer your question:
That graph is wrong on so many levels.
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I would upgrade to a GTX 570/580/6970/6950 and play the game. Do not run FRAPS when you aint benchmarking, as it just makes you feel paranoid when playing the game, thinking it is unplayable, when it is absolutely fine.
    
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I would upgrade to a GTX 570/580/6970/6950 and play the game. Do not run FRAPS when you aint benchmarking, as it just makes you feel paranoid when playing the game, thinking it is unplayable, when it is absolutely fine.
+1 I know 30fps is a nice standard but when I ran fraps in crysis2 i was surprised to see mid 20s on ultra and dx11 since it played so smooth. I woulda guessed I was easily 30+ the way people say games suck at less than 30
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