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Am I bottlenecking my 570?

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I am letting a friend use a 570 I might sell him. Here's his system

AMD quad 9600 2.2 ghz
4 gig 800mhz ram
570

It is running much slower in his system then it did in mine. I could max out anything I put at it, and he is getting very low FPS in both games we tried it with.

Is the CPU or RAM killing him?

If it is, would getting better ram take care of the problem or is the CPU also just to old to still use on current games?
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post #2 of 32
yes very, those first gen phenom CPU's were awful.
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post #3 of 32
That system is strangling the life out of the 570, no two ways about it.
post #4 of 32
Uber Bottlenecked

If you could get that thing to 6ghz it would still be bottlnecked
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post #5 of 32
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorpion49 View Post
That system is strangling the life out of the 570, no two ways about it.
Would a RAM upgrade help much, or is a new CPU his only answer?
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ocz 120gig ssd corsair h70 windows 7 64 triple ASUS VE278Q for racing 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
50 inch panny plasma for shooters and movies G510 kingwin 1000 in win dragon rider 
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i7-950 asus rampage III SLI EVGA GTX 670 FTW 4gb 12 gig corsair dominator 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ocz 120gig ssd corsair h70 windows 7 64 triple ASUS VE278Q for racing 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
50 inch panny plasma for shooters and movies G510 kingwin 1000 in win dragon rider 
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post #6 of 32
A rock would do a better job for a cpu than that phenom!
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post #7 of 32
Thread Starter 
It's looking like the verdict is not good for him
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Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ocz 120gig ssd corsair h70 windows 7 64 triple ASUS VE278Q for racing 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
50 inch panny plasma for shooters and movies G510 kingwin 1000 in win dragon rider 
MouseAudioOther
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My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-950 asus rampage III SLI EVGA GTX 670 FTW 4gb 12 gig corsair dominator 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ocz 120gig ssd corsair h70 windows 7 64 triple ASUS VE278Q for racing 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
50 inch panny plasma for shooters and movies G510 kingwin 1000 in win dragon rider 
MouseAudioOther
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post #8 of 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by bevo View Post
Would a RAM upgrade help much, or is a new CPU his only answer?
Short answer: nothing much can help that system.

Long answer? The CPU is really just too slow, even with a judicious OC I don't think it would be able to keep up. The RAM won't help much at all. There is basically nothing I can think of that can allow it to perform to the full potential of the 570.
post #9 of 32
Thread Starter 
I have a 1366 board I can let him use. What would be the cheapest CPU and RAM that would do the card justice?
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i7-950 asus rampage III SLI EVGA GTX 670 FTW 4gb 12 gig corsair dominator 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ocz 120gig ssd corsair h70 windows 7 64 triple ASUS VE278Q for racing 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
50 inch panny plasma for shooters and movies G510 kingwin 1000 in win dragon rider 
MouseAudioOther
R.A.T. 7 polk rti a fronts and center, polk fxi rears, s... fanatec CSW 
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My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-950 asus rampage III SLI EVGA GTX 670 FTW 4gb 12 gig corsair dominator 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ocz 120gig ssd corsair h70 windows 7 64 triple ASUS VE278Q for racing 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
50 inch panny plasma for shooters and movies G510 kingwin 1000 in win dragon rider 
MouseAudioOther
R.A.T. 7 polk rti a fronts and center, polk fxi rears, s... fanatec CSW 
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post #10 of 32
i7 920 and 6GB of DDR3 shouldn't run you a whole lot. Maybe try finding some in the marketplace here.
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