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Pentium D VS Pentium Dual-Core?

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I've been reading up on them, and the D has higher clocks, cache, and HT but a much longer stage-line pipe which causes the Dual-Core to out preform it. The D also is higher wattage 95 and 130, where as the Dual-Core is 65. My only question is, Does the Dual-Core overclock better then the Pentium Ds?

I was looking at a Pentium D 945 SL9QQ, due to the lower TDP and D0 stepping. [3.4ghz, 2x2mb cache, 95TDP]

Also, let me inform everyone that according to Abit, the best Dual-Core that the board I'm using[IP35 Pro] supports, is the E2220. Which is 2.4ghz,1M shared cache, 65TDP. Which should be taken into account.

Now I know 50% of people are going to say "Get a Core2Duo". Let me stop you right there by saying: I'm just tinkering with Intel and I don't want to spend a lot."
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There is a big difference in the architecture between the two. The pentium dual cores perform alot better clock for clock than the Pentium D's. Trust me on this you will be alot happier with a pentium dual core over a pent d which are out performed by the old socket 939 dual cores.
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There is a big difference in the architecture between the two. The pentium dual cores perform alot better clock for clock than the Pentium D's. Trust me on this you will be alot happier with a pentium dual core over a pent d which are out performed by the old socket 939 dual cores.
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Pentium D, gonna need some pretty good cooling if you OC it.
Got a 820 and it idles at like 130+ due to no idle state.so its 100% all the time (IDK about the better ones. 820 was the low dollar)

aside from being hot I think its a decent CPU for its age. and I think they have some good OC potential (Read, somewhere I think not sure.)
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There is a big difference in the architecture between the two. The pentium dual cores perform alot better clock for clock than the Pentium D's. Trust me on this you will be alot happier with a pentium dual core over a pent d which are out performed by the old socket 939 dual cores.
Can you comment on there overclocking capabilities? Cuz if they can get from 2.4 to 3ghz ill probably just get a D. Honestly thats what it will spend most of it time doing anyways, besides a friend here or there using it for some indie game coop.

Basically, I want to see higher numbers. Or, WoW syndrome.
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Why are we going back on ten year old technology?
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On the contrary, when learning to tweak a platform I say "go cheap", if you brake it there's no big loss.

About the Pentium CPUs, the D is very inefficient in instructions per clock, the number of pipe stages is only the biggest problem. I think a 2.4GHz PDC is quite a bit faster than a 3.4GHz PD, and thru OCing you micht get some 3.5GHzfrom the PDC and say 4.5GHz from the PD. The D0 revision you picked is among the best if not the best,but it doesn't really matter as percentage-wise you gain more on the PDC which is faster to begin with.

Bottom line: the Pentium 2220 is the better choice at stock speed and for OCing.
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Why are we going back on ten year old technology?

Because it cheap as ***** and I want to tinker with Intel. And since I don't make 30K+ a year, I can just buy a 2500k.
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Why are we going back on ten year old technology?
Not even close. 10 years ago we were using single-core 32-bit chips only. Athlon XP 3200+ was all the rage, if it was out then.
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On the contrary, when learning to tweak a platform I say "go cheap", if you brake it there's no big loss.

About the Pentium CPUs, the D is very inefficient in instructions per clock, the number of pipe stages is only the biggest problem. I think a 2.4GHz PDC is quite a bit faster than a 3.4GHz PD, and thru OCing you micht get some 3.5GHzfrom the PDC and say 4.5GHz from the PD. The D0 revision you picked is among the best if not the best,but it doesn't really matter as percentage-wise you gain more on the PDC which is faster to begin with.

Bottom line: the Pentium 2220 is the better choice at stock speed and for OCing.
I did notice that the Board also supports E4000s and 5000s. They seem to go up alot in price. That's why I chose the 945. cheap, lower TDP and most revised stepping.
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